SBAndy
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Saw that this morning. What kind of world do we live in?!
Saw that this morning. What kind of world do we live in?!Then there’s also this.
I Am Legend screenwriter dismisses anti-vax claims based on film's plot
A sci-fi writer hits back at unfounded rumours that Covid jabs turn people into zombies.www.bbc.co.uk
Fucking hell, if it's not Russian drug companies smearing Pfizer and AZ, it's Sky News Australia having to take down misleading claims on YouTube.
What is wrong with people?
Saw that this morning. What kind of world do we live in?!
It’s crazy mate. If people don’t want to take it, it’s stupid but ultimately their call, to spread bullshit kills others.
The misinformation spread about AZ in particular has been nothing short of disgusting, that’s not even from nut jobs though, but from political leaders protecting their own arses and their pharma companies (macron being the worst but questions over US and some other European nations)….which is way worse in my book.
I was reading recently that some African countries/people are even reticent to take free AZ doses, seeing it as inferior and Europe’s leftovers. I mean, WTF ?!!
I can see why they might think that, tbf. Doesn't seem to work as well as Pfizer, even the country it originated in (us) doesn't give it to many age groups...I was reading recently that some African countries/people are even reticent to take free AZ doses, seeing it as inferior and Europe’s leftovers. I mean, WTF ?!!
I didn't even know there was that thought! Is that because we've opened up a lot, so therefore people are confusing increased transmission when countries open up, with vaccination?
I didn't even know there was that thought! Is that because we've opened up a lot, so therefore people are confusing increased transmission when countries open up, with vaccination?
I can see why they might think that, tbf. Doesn't seem to work as well as Pfizer, even the country it originated in (us) doesn't give it to many age groups...
From an outside perspective, it might well look you're being palmed off with it.
(To be clear, we're in a world where something is better than nothing, and it seems to work... well enough, as long as enough people take the thing! But that's the danger of transparency too about things like the clotting. Sometimes, a bit of deception and concealment might be a good thing(!))
The argument about more variants was always we were opening up quicker than people were being vaccinated though, wasn't it? And that it was too soon to dispense with everything until more had been vaccinated?Seen a few people claim because you can still catch it there will be more variants with opening up.
The argument about more variants was always we were opening up quicker than people were being vaccinated though, wasn't it? And that it was too soon to dispense with everything until more had been vaccinated?
Vaccination suppresses transmission, after all - transmission's only been relatively low because everybody's been avoiding one another!
This all may be so but the evidence is there that AZ induces lower antibody levels in the aged population.It’s crazy mate. If people don’t want to take it, it’s stupid but ultimately their call, to spread bullshit kills others.
The misinformation spread about AZ in particular has been nothing short of disgusting, that’s not even from nut jobs though, but from political leaders protecting their own arses and their pharma companies (macron being the worst but questions over US and some other European nations)….which is way worse in my book.
I was reading recently that some African countries/people are even reticent to take free AZ doses, seeing it as inferior and Europe’s leftovers. I mean, WTF ?!!
How's the family Pete?Over 600 deaths in the last week.
I wonder what brought yesterday's number close toour speculated total, hopefully some data collected together from omissions.Over 600 deaths in the last week.
How is Macron worse than the USA that hasn’t even approved it but hoarded vaccines?It’s crazy mate. If people don’t want to take it, it’s stupid but ultimately their call, to spread bullshit kills others.
The misinformation spread about AZ in particular has been nothing short of disgusting, that’s not even from nut jobs though, but from political leaders protecting their own arses and their pharma companies (macron being the worst but questions over US and some other European nations)….which is way worse in my book.
I was reading recently that some African countries/people are even reticent to take free AZ doses, seeing it as inferior and Europe’s leftovers. I mean, WTF ?!!
First time really affected other than helping as an nhs volunteer.How's the family Pete?
First time really affected other than helping as an nhs volunteer.
Both daughters positive. 10 days isolation for the rest of us to Sunday initially and then to Wednesday after second positive test. Hoping the rules will change about isolation on Monday for household close contacts as well as other close contacts
So missed a weeks singing holiday and won’t get to Devon till maybe later and potentially at all
Sister and nephew poorly now and sister has had both vaccines.
Mum and other sister isolating so a bit shit really
Good friend just died of cancer too so bit meh. Thanks for asking
She is - she’s also had it beforeSorry to hear it mate, all my best to them. Take it your sister isn’t too poorly?
Depends which way you look at it.How is Macron worse than the USA that hasn’t even approved it but hoarded vaccines?
She is - she’s also had it before
Well yes because they’ve hoarded vaccines that could have been used by other countries and saved lives.Depends which way you look at it.
It is OK if you don't take the vaccination. But if you go telling everyone that the vaccinations don't work or one of the crackpot reasons for it you are an idiot at best. But if you are a leader that said it doesn't work and will have cost lives by people not taking the vaccination because of what he said it isn't as bad as someone who hasn't approved the AZ because of what has been said about it?
Well yes because they’ve hoarded vaccines that could have been used by other countries and saved lives.
How is not approving it any better?As Dog says though there’s one thing hoarding, which appears to have happened in US and Europe, there’s another claiming a vaccine is quasi effective/may not work
This all may be so but the evidence is there that AZ induces lower antibody levels in the aged population.
How is not approving it any better?
As Dog says though there’s one thing hoarding, which appears to have happened in US and Europe, there’s another claiming a vaccine is quasi effective/may not work
It isn’t much, an indirect ‘we’re not signing it off yet but we’ve got loads of Pfizer so not an issue’ or a direct ‘its not very good/doesnt work’...take your pick. I said in original post there’s questions over US conduct, macrons comments were more damaging in my view though
Is macron denying others access to the vaccine then?
Is macron denying others access to the vaccine then?
Personally I’d assume it’s rubbish for the simple fact it’s Boris saying it.No he and the German press said it was rubbish and would more than likely mean you may as well inject yourself with water
If Johnson had said that the Pfizer vaccine was a rubbish thing avoid it as you cannot than have a real vaccine what would you do?
No he and the German press said it was rubbish and would more than likely mean you may as well inject yourself with water
If Johnson had said that the Pfizer vaccine was a rubbish thing avoid it as you cannot than have a real vaccine what would you do?
bad example, I along with so many others automatically assume that anything Johnson says is bullshit.
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