Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (38 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:

What a vile c**t.

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

I don't like the thought of anybody dying horribly, personally. Even if they're a shit, they'll have family who'll be affected.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:

Is that genuine? I just can't believe anyone could be so callous. Absolutely disgusting if true

 

[PVA]

Is that genuine? I just can't believe anyone could be so callous. Absolutely disgusting if true

Yes it's genuine unfortunately.

She's an extreme right wing nutter who had support from Trump.

 

[LastGarrison]

So vaccine passports will have to be shown for anyone attending our away games at Swansea and Cardiff then?

 

[Sick Boy]

Expecting outrage at the new travel rules as well.

 

[David O'Day]

Laura Zoomer Loomer, too batshit for even the most rabid of alt right melts

 

[David O'Day]

Laura Zoomer protest none building of a wall by showing how easy the are to jump over

Far-Right Conspiracy Theorist Tries to Break into Nancy Pelosi's Napa Home - SF Weekly

An il-loom-inating look into the mentality of someone desperate to get back her 260,000 followers and all the attention they so easily bring.

www.sfweekly.com

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I know right from wrong

Clearly not...

False info is pretty destructive, and dangerous in this case.

'Depopulation agenda?' If that was the case you'd just let Covid run!

Anyway if you don't want a reaction about conspiracies, why post one?

 

[shmmeee]

I'm just asking you to watch the video, that's all mate.

Take your creepy cult shit elsewhere.

And then take a critical thinking course.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Take your creepy cult shit elsewhere.

And then take a critical thinking course.

No he’s entitled to his crappy, ill informed, dangerous, thick opinion

 

[Deleted member 5849]

O'Looney by name...

 

[shmmeee]

No he’s entitled to his crappy, ill informed, dangerous, thick opinion

And I’m entitled to think he’s a sheep who couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag because he parrots literally any old bollocks he sees that goes against the mainstream.

Got to love a liberal democracy.

 

[shmmeee]

O'Looney by name...

I missed that

 

[shmmeee]

“Just giving their opinion”

 

[Sick Boy]

“Just giving their opinion”

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Fucking hell.
I think that despite the bravado the anti-vaxx lot are unable to accept the reality of the situation and can’t face the fact that the situation is out of control, hence the bullshit narratives about it being fake, pre-planned, controlled, NHS conspiracy etc.
Their behaviour is disgusting though and offensive to the NHS workers who’ve given so much over the last 18 months.

 

[skybluetony176]

Morons

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Morons

didn't you know huge amounts of cash makes you immune? Or you can just get one of the servants to contract the virus for you?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.

 

[wingy]

What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.

Not sure.
Think they seemed to think of hope it was very effective in Israel at the point of mass vaccination but the Indian/Delta variant reduced it

Really not certain at all but think it's low may have seen 50% at one point but I do remember feeling crest fallen that it wasn't going to be the magic bullet.

 

[SBT]

What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.

The Lancet:

DEFINE_ME

New England Journal of Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The Lancet:

DEFINE_ME

New England Journal of Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757

Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.

Nothing is completely reassuring

 

[SBT]

Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.

What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:

several of the available vaccines appear to limit infection and viral replication, often lowering viral load beneath the threshold for transmission and preventing symptoms…many studies show significant efficacy in preventing transmission for some vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines

From the second one:

We provide empirical evidence suggesting that vaccination may reduce transmission by showing that vaccination of health care workers is associated with a decrease in documented cases of Covid-19 among members of their households. This finding is reassuring for health care workers and their families.

What stood out for you?

 

[COV]

Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.

Why?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:


From the second one:


What stood out for you?

'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Why?

 

[SBT]

'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.

That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!

I hope you are right. Just seems to me the jury is out still.

I desperately want the vaccine to be the way out of this, but I'm losing a lot of hope that it is going to be the case.

 

[SBT]

I hope you are right. Just seems to me the jury is out still.

I desperately want the vaccine to be the way out of this, but I'm losing a lot of hope that it is going to be the case.

Which studies have you seen that argue the contrary?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Which studies have you seen that argue the contrary?

As I said, there seems to be a lack of studies that I could find at least. That's why I asked.

The ones you posted hardly cover the positive in glory though do they?

 

[SBT]

As I said, there seems to be a lack of studies that I could find at least. That's why I asked.

The ones you posted hardly cover the positive in glory though do they?

They seem pretty positive to me!

I found them on page 1 of the Google results for “vaccine transmission”, it took me 30 seconds. So I’m sure there are many more studies out there if you want them.

In the absence of any studies that say the vaccines are worthless in terms of preventing transmission (and obviously that is far from their only/main benefit), I’m feeling even more grateful that we’ve got the vaccines we have.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

They seem pretty positive to me!

I found them on page 1 of the Google results for “vaccine transmission”, it took me 30 seconds. So I’m sure there are many more studies out there if you want them.

In the absence of any studies that say the vaccines are worthless in terms of preventing transmission (and obviously that is far from their only/main benefit), I’m feeling even more grateful that we’ve got the vaccines we have.

Well, I am very glad that it satisfies your curiosity. That's good.

Unfortunately for me I don't feel the same way.

 

[shmmeee]

Well, I am very glad that it satisfies your curiosity. That's good.

Unfortunately for me I don't feel the same way.

Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. Why are you starting from the hypothesis that reduction in symptomatic infection doesn’t lead to reduction in transmission?

 

[SBT]

Well, I am very glad that it satisfies your curiosity. That's good.

Unfortunately for me I don't feel the same way.

Thanks man. Having the vaccine has been really good for me, my family and my friends. And apparently the country as a whole too.