clint van damme
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This is an interesting, and slightly worrying, thread.
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Not user friendly for the elderly I'd think.
Probably their main customers?
Evo1883
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What's worrying? The data or the Scottish nationalist attitudes towards the data in the comments ? They sound like tories down here
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Sky Blue Pete
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Lots of interesting stuff there
clint van damme
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The parts about efficacy. Explains why Israel saw that rise in hospitalisations earlier in the year.
To compound it there was areport on the radio this morning saying the booster program isn't going too well.
Evo1883
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As in not a large uptake
Yes there was also a concern that Isreal went too early with their booster programme.
While at home I find the opinion of the Oxford professor who developed it,along with the boss of AZ slightly at odds to Govt policy.
GPs and patients complain about Covid-19 booster jab chaos
Last week the Mail on Sunday revealed thousands of vulnerable patients from across Britain are having difficulties in securing a Covid booster shot. This week they tell their stories.
clint van damme
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Not very well organised by the sound of it. Hopefully they sort it out.
chiefdave
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Had just seen this on twitter and was about to post it. Its odd to me that in general people don't seem concerned that our numbers are higher than elsewhere yet we have zero mitigations in place. Does nobody think there's a connection between the two things?
Was a thread on a hockey forum I'm on recently about attending games this season and it was only in England that people were saying nothing had changed since pre-covid. Everyone else commenting about attending arenas around Europe and in North America was speaking of needing proof of vaccination and masks but here there's no attempt at all to stop the spread.
Brighton Sky Blue
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We might possibly be testing what the ‘acceptable’ death rate is.
Grendel
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how many are in hospital about 8,000?
chiefdave
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From the FT article just posted 'comparing the situation in the UK vs a selection of Western Europe peers' ... 'hospital admissions are 6x higher'
Grendel
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Covid France: Pressure mounts on hospitals; most patients unvaccinated
Hospitals across the country are seeing a rise in admissions and entries into intensive care units, with a marked shift to significantly younger patients compared to 2020
Not sure on that but we're roughly running ten time's the amount of infection in Italy,Spain, possibly Sweden .
That's just on measured results not ONS data which is significantly higher .
Just feel it actually could be better than it is so the NHS and it's staff can get on with regular stuff after nearly two years of full on pressure.
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Even I would struggle to believe even this PM would be that stupid, so I won't jump yet...
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No 10 denies Boris and Carrie Johnson broke lockdown rules at Christmas
BORIS Johnson and his wife Carrie broke strict coronavirus lockdown rules last Christmas to spend the festive period with a friend at Number 10, it…
Grendel
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Infections do seem amongst the young mostly
Rightly or wrongly, I’d imagine there’s an element of accepting the wider circulation of the virus over late summer/autumn rather than winter. There feels like an acceptance now that everyone is going to get it at some stage
You’d hope that the scientists/gov/nhs are keeping a close eye on what’s happening with infection rates in certain age/risk groups, hospitalisations etc (sure they are).
I also think a lot of the U.K. public are just getting on with getting life back to normal. Again, I’m not saying this is right or wrong, only time will tell I guess.
You’d hope that the scientists/gov/nhs are keeping a close eye on what’s happening with infection rates in certain age/risk groups, hospitalisations etc (sure they are).
I also think a lot of the U.K. public are just getting on with getting life back to normal. Again, I’m not saying this is right or wrong, only time will tell I guess.
Even I would struggle to believe even this PM would be that stupid, so I won't jump yet...
No 10 denies Boris and Carrie Johnson broke lockdown rules at Christmas
BORIS Johnson and his wife Carrie broke strict coronavirus lockdown rules last Christmas to spend the festive period with a friend at Number 10, it…
Looks like they were careful with the statement wording. Probably happened but they say they followed rules (certainly if the individual lived on their own I think they could’ve joined bubble although even if they didn’t live alone I thought it was possible for xmas day ?!…there been lots of rule changes and a fair few months since so can’t really remember !!!)
Ps I spent Christmas Day with a couple of mates so would find it difficult to judge anyway
Grendel
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Even I would struggle to believe even this PM would be that stupid, so I won't jump yet...
No 10 denies Boris and Carrie Johnson broke lockdown rules at Christmas
BORIS Johnson and his wife Carrie broke strict coronavirus lockdown rules last Christmas to spend the festive period with a friend at Number 10, it…
Really a bit of a non story
shmmeee
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I think we’re just leading other countries TBH, although we seem to be more devil may care than many with other measures, I expect like Isreal did other places will also see a rise when booster time comes around.
We do need to crack on with boosters though and the messaging seems to have gone very quiet on that. I’d like to see more public information stuff about how it’s still out there and wear a mask, etc.
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It's down to the PM to set your example, mind!Looks like they were careful with the statement wording. Probably happened but they say they followed rules (certainly if the individual lived on their own I think they could’ve joined bubble although even if they didn’t live alone I thought it was possible for xmas day ?!…there been lots of rule changes and a fair few months since so can’t really remember !!!)
Ps I spent Christmas Day with a couple of mates so would find it difficult to judge anyway
But as said, I really *can't* imagine he'd be that stupid. Well... tbf I could imagine he could be that stupid, but he does have plenty of advisors to tell him not to be. Then again, who picked Hancock as a lothario?
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I'll also be a lot more comfortable when antivirals come online, and from my personal POV, if I'm allowed a chance of a vaccine boost next year, even if I have to pay...
As an aside, an elderly friend has been told by their doctor that they've run out of flu vaccines, and they'll have to make their own arrangements. Given last year they made a big deal about the risks of catching both Covid and flu, that ain't great...
hill83
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They are being cracked on with. My uncle and grandad have had theirs and most of the old timers in the local I speak to have as well.
shmmeee
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Not at the rate the first shots were looking at the data. TBF my missus has had hers as well. But the data shows there’s something like 4m who are due but haven’t had theirs.
hill83
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Yeah fair enough. Mine was only anecdotal evidence.
Astute
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They do their numbers differently to us. Most probably more honest. The numbers you see are people going to hospital. ICU numbers just over 1,000.
The Connexions site you used as evidence is very poor. If I had believed them I wouldn't have got my pass sanitaire. They have now vaccinated over 85% of over 12's. If you haven't got your pass sanitaire you can't enter any premises where they serve food or drink. This includes places where they have an outside area. You have to wear a mask to go into any shop or similar. No mask no entry. My children have to wear a mask all day at school even in the playground.
Have you seen what is happening in Italy? They are going on strike as everyone needs a similar pass to be able to go to work.
But in the UK we continue with life as though nothing has happened. We were miles ahead with vaccinations. Now we are behind.
Here are the proper updated numbers. They are directly off my pass sanitaire.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Nearly 1100 in French ICU doesn't realy tally with the French case numbers though does it?
It would suggest to me that the numbers of reported cases are well under?
I could be wrong but I'm guessing France aint testing to the same extent?
UK currently officially has just under 800 on ventilators as off yesterday....I don't know how many in ICU....but i'm sure someone on here will let us know soon enough.
It would suggest to me that the numbers of reported cases are well under?
I could be wrong but I'm guessing France aint testing to the same extent?
UK currently officially has just under 800 on ventilators as off yesterday....I don't know how many in ICU....but i'm sure someone on here will let us know soon enough.
Grendel
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Less than France are in ICU...................France is over 1,000 UK is 783 as of Oct 14
Sky Blue Pete
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My mum 80 with copd stayed at my sisters for the week over Xmas. Was all fineEven I would struggle to believe even this PM would be that stupid, so I won't jump yet...
No 10 denies Boris and Carrie Johnson broke lockdown rules at Christmas
BORIS Johnson and his wife Carrie broke strict coronavirus lockdown rules last Christmas to spend the festive period with a friend at Number 10, it…
Astute
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I have done screenshots straight from my Pass sanitaire. They are not guesses like what we seem to get here.
They also take things much more seriously than we do here. We carry on as though nothing is wrong. Yet in Scotland you now need their pass by law and looks like Wales will follow soon. We have the highest rate in Europe. Our hospitalisation was over 7,000 last time I looked.
