Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (277 Viewers)

Wyken Sky Blue · Dec 11, 2021

How long has Omicron been with us in the UK now, two weeks nearly?

Has there been any record of any deaths from it in the UK or indeed worldwide?

The restrictions in place currently are tolerable in my opinion, but I think anymore and people will start to seriously get pissed off. We've been essentially back to normal for 4-5 months seeing things pick up again with the economy and people's mental health & well-being

Fingers crossed this will be the last time we restrict for a new covid variant

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CCFCSteve · Dec 11, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Leaked docs show more restrictions could be on the way in the UK.

Im not one for rumours for stuff like this but I heard something similar (further restrictions from 4 Jan). Might be just precautionary plans being pulled together ie if hospitalisations spike following omicron spread, however, at the moment we just don’t know the severity of it and for all the negative noises about booster programme a majority of high risk have been triple jabbed

Also, we don’t know what type of measures. Could be just wider adoption of vaccine passports, more face masks requirements etc

Kieranp96 · Dec 11, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
How long has Omicron been with us in the UK now, two weeks nearly?

Has there been any record of any deaths from it in the UK or indeed worldwide?

The restrictions in place currently are tolerable in my opinion, but I think anymore and people will start to seriously get pissed off. We've been essentially back to normal for 4-5 months seeing things pick up again with the economy and people's mental health & well-being

Fingers crossed this will be the last time we restrict for a new covid variant

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People are pissed with lockdowns bit thsy also want them, cant have both either lockdown or dont.

Kieranp96 · Dec 11, 2021

Its said that omocron puts 1% of cases in hospital (most mild) compared to 4% of delta, so even if it is mild if it spreads 10x worst than delta it be still a strain on the nhs, im against lockdowns but i also can see the point if it needs to be done, albiet it font affect me.

Sick Boy · Dec 11, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Its said that omocron puts 1% of cases in hospital (most mild) compared to 4% of delta, so even if it is mild if it spreads 10x worst than delta it be still a strain on the nhs, im against lockdowns but i also can see the point if it needs to be done, albiet it font affect me.

It's too early to be making presumptions and this is going to keep on happening until people look outside of their own countries and actually understand it's a global pandemic and the overwhelming majority of the world don't have access to vaccines.

wingy · Dec 11, 2021

Confusion here .
Doubling every 3days.
Didn't one of the others?
Self isolating , who's going to comply with that?
What is the current chance?
Been as low as 1-:50 or less before, what is it currently?

baldy · Dec 11, 2021

Plan C apparently on the way - why? We didn’t even need fuckin plan B

Nick · Dec 11, 2021

Nobody is going to self isolate.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 11, 2021

Got invited for a booster jab next week, pretty happy with that.

baldy · Dec 11, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Its said that omocron puts 1% of cases in hospital (most mild) compared to 4% of delta, so even if it is mild if it spreads 10x worst than delta it be still a strain on the nhs, im against lockdowns but i also can see the point if it needs to be done, albiet it font affect me.

Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 11, 2021

Sick Boy said:
It's too early to be making presumptions and this is going to keep on happening until people look outside of their own countries and actually understand it's a global pandemic and the overwhelming majority of the world don't have access to vaccines.

What I see developing here is a cycle of the wealthier nations buying up vaccine supplies in reaction to each new variant that emerges from countries that can't afford them or don't have the infrastructure for their own vaccination programmes.

This will be self perpetuating unless the chain is broken and huge assistance is given to a global vaccination drive.

Ian1779 · Dec 11, 2021

baldy said:
Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it

Are you a time traveller or something?

Kieranp96 · Dec 11, 2021

baldy said:
Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it

Your facts are wrong

Kieranp96 · Dec 11, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
What I see developing here is a cycle of the wealthier nations buying up vaccine supplies in reaction to each new variant that emerges from countries that can't afford them or don't have the infrastructure for their own vaccination programmes.

This will be self perpetuating unless the chain is broken and huge assistance is given to a global vaccination drive.

South africa have loads of vaccines just noone wants them.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 11, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
South africa have loads of vaccines just noone wants them.

As Vaccines Trickle into Africa, Zambia’s Challenges Highlight Other Obstacles - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Kieranp96 · Dec 11, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
As Vaccines Trickle into Africa, Zambia’s Challenges Highlight Other Obstacles - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Aint signing up, all i know is south africa have the vaccines but no demand.

shmmeee · Dec 11, 2021

baldy said:
Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it

You should probably tell South Africa that, their doctors will be relieved.

baldy · Dec 11, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Your facts are wrong

Is It True That No One Has Died with Omicron Variant?

Early studies indicate the strain may cause less severe COVID-19 symptoms compared to its precursor, the delta variant.

www.snopes.com

Really?

robbiekeane · Dec 12, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
How long has Omicron been with us in the UK now, two weeks nearly?

Has there been any record of any deaths from it in the UK or indeed worldwide?

Not a single fucking one. Why is the UK media the only one kicking off about this???

Im going about normal life tbh, I’ll wear a mask sure but if any further restrictions come in I’m ignoring them

Ian1779 · Dec 12, 2021

robbiekeane said:
Not a single fucking one. Why is the UK media the only one kicking off about this???

Im going about normal life tbh, I’ll wear a mask sure but if any further restrictions come in I’m ignoring them

The WHO have not updated their figures since Dec 4th, the virus has been present in the UK for what - 2 weeks or so?
Hopefully it’s not a serious mutation - but people getting outraged based on out of date information is bordering on ridiculous.

Ian1779 · Dec 12, 2021

If people want to be concerned/outraged then maybe have a look at this if it ends up being accurate on both counts.

Double tragedy after deaths of two children with Covid at same school

Saddlebrains · Dec 12, 2021

Think I'm going to go and get boosted.

I know its the right thing to do but i just cant shake the nagging feeling in my head that 3 in less than a year just isn't right.

The pericarditis/myocarditis is the worry for me as i have an arrhythmia

clint van damme · Dec 12, 2021

baldy said:
Is It True That No One Has Died with Omicron Variant?

Early studies indicate the strain may cause less severe COVID-19 symptoms compared to its precursor, the delta variant.

www.snopes.com

Really?

Snopes

Wyken Sky Blue · Dec 12, 2021

I'll be trying to book my booster for next week

I feel a bit aggrieved that I'll have had 3x covid jabs in 6 months and that I personally think the Omicron variant is overhyped by the UK media, but if it helps to do my bit to keep restrictions limited then so be it

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chiefdave · Dec 12, 2021

robbiekeane said:
Why is the UK media the only one kicking off about this???

Take it you didn't watch Bayern v Barcelona this week if you think the UK is the only country with concerns.

Lets hope games don't end up back behind closed doors here.

fernandopartridge · Dec 12, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
I'll be trying to book my booster for next week

I feel a bit aggrieved that I'll have had 3x covid jabs in 6 months and that I personally think the Omicron variant is overhyped by the UK media, but if it helps to do my bit to keep restrictions limited then so be it

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Talk about privileged. Aggrieved for being offered a third dose of a vaccine that many won't get the opportunity to have. I'm embarrassed for you.

Wyken Sky Blue · Dec 12, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
Talk about privileged. Aggrieved for being offered a third dose of a vaccine that many won't get the opportunity to have. I'm embarrassed for you.

Given the choice of having the third dose or giving it to someone else who may be more at risk than me I would choose the latter.

I'm assuming the 'many' you mean are those in other countries worldwide? Do unused does get distributed elsewhere if there is no take-up?

Forgive me for thinking that three doses in six months in which my last one was in August seems excessive. I don't think my age group would've been offered the booster if it weren't for this variant if I'm honest

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chiefdave · Dec 12, 2021

baldy said:
Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain

Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant

The variant accounts for a third of infections in London, Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 12, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Think I'm going to go and get boosted.

I know its the right thing to do but i just cant shake the nagging feeling in my head that 3 in less than a year just isn't right.

The pericarditis/myocarditis is the worry for me as i have an arrhythmia

To be honest I was a bit concerned with that as I have a history of it too.

The data suggests it is predominantly young men who are very physically active and won't last very long. Though from experience I know that's not much comfort when you're having an attack. I had my booster last week and haven't experienced anything of that nature, just a sore arm and a headache for a couple of days.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 12, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
Given the choice of having the third dose or giving it to someone else who may be more at risk than me I would choose the latter.

I assume you don't mean that.

Wyken Sky Blue · Dec 12, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I assume you don't mean that.

Yes I do mean it. There are people statistically more at risk than me (as per the NHS website) and if it meant that my dose went to someone abroad that haven't had the number of vaccines that the UK had that are more at risk then I would

fernandopartridge · Dec 12, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
Given the choice of having the third dose or giving it to someone else who may be more at risk than me I would choose the latter.

I'm assuming the 'many' you mean are those in other countries worldwide? Do unused does get distributed elsewhere if there is no take-up?

Forgive me for thinking that three doses in six months in which my last one was in August seems excessive. I don't think my age group would've been offered the booster if it weren't for this variant if I'm honest

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Why does it "seem excessive" compared to what?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 12, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
Yes I do mean it. There are people statistically more at risk than me (as per the NHS website) and if it meant that my dose went to someone abroad that haven't had the number of vaccines that the UK had that are more at risk then I would

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you meant risking giving the virus to someone, not giving them your booster.

Kieranp96 · Dec 12, 2021

baldy said:
Is It True That No One Has Died with Omicron Variant?

Early studies indicate the strain may cause less severe COVID-19 symptoms compared to its precursor, the delta variant.

www.snopes.com

Really?

Yes really , might not be as frequent but its still putting some people in hospital, some are even on ventilators. So yes really.

CCFCSteve · Dec 12, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Yes really , might not be as frequent but its still putting some people in hospital, some are even on ventilators. So yes really.

Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta

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