Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (15 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

I didn’t know if the rules had changed, seeing as you’d been coy on here about your own vaccination status.

He said quite a while ago he intended to get vaccinated.

 

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[CCFCSteve]

Have you had a brain injury? The point of isolation isn't so the person has time to feel better it's to try and stop the thing spreading. While for some people it will be mild for others it will not and the bigger the spread the more people with severe illness and the more pressure on the NHS.

I get the arguments about no more lockdowns but self isolation when you've had a positive test isn't really that arguable.

As I mention above there is a sensible discussion to be had around length of self isolation though to minimise periods where a person is isolating but isn’t contagious. There is also a theory that if you are able to safely reduce the period you’ll get a higher rate of compliance. It would need to be tied into new testing requirements though

 

[Nick]

For example the "Case Fatality Rate" which looks to be 0.24% at the last update which won't have time for all the Omicron to kick in.

At what point IF it hopefully does remain really low does somebody say, "actually, if you are a double jabbed and boosted paramedic then isolate for less time on production of a negative Lateral flow".

There will be a point where making every stay locked away for 10 days is going to be more destructive than letting them pass it on to 2 or 3 people that they might. For example.

 

[fernandopartridge]

For example the "Case Fatality Rate" which looks to be 0.24% at the last update which won't have time for all the Omicron to kick in.

At what point IF it hopefully does remain really low does somebody say, "actually, if you are a double jabbed and boosted paramedic then isolate for less time on production of a negative Lateral flow".

There will be a point where making every stay locked away for 10 days is going to be more destructive than letting them pass it on to 2 or 3 people that they might. For example.

That's a case fatality rate of 1 in 400, are you sure you've not missed a decimal place there!

 

[Nick]

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It is obviously going to change with the Omicron effect.

Hopefully that will drop.

 

[MusicDating]

Using absolute values without context is meaningless - populations size and proportion fully vaccinated should be considered.
For context - in SA where this variant supposedly originated they have only 26% fully vaccinated from a population of 60m we have 70% of a 68m population.

And the last variant originated here...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And the last variant originated here...

Thought it was India

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Just 2 days wages lost or 2 half days?

How often? Every time i get one of the omicron symptoms even though the lateral flow is negative?

Didn’t realise you worked 24 hours a day Nick apologies

 

[Moff]

Nothing in life is certain, but a PCR test is as certain as you'll get.

The fly in the ointment is if you have had Covid you can’t have a PCR test again for 90 days as it can give unreliable results, thus you have to rely on LFT’s which aren’t entirely accurate.

I had Covid and had a positive, negative then positive lateral flow test during that period.

if you’ve had Delta, I presume there’s nothing to stop you getting Omicron and without a definitive PCR people could easily become spreaders.

 

[Nick]

Didn’t realise you worked 24 hours a day Nick apologies

That's the isolation until getting a PCR and then the results after my first bogey.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not sure if posted already but this came out of Imperial yesterday.

Omicron largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses | Imperial News | Imperial College London

COVID-19 OMICRON - The Omicron variant largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses according to the latest Imperial modelling.

www.imperial.ac.uk

 

[Ian1779]

And the last variant originated here...

When our proportion of vaccinated people was lower

 

[PVA]

You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.

Bit fucked if you can’t drive

 

[Nick]

You can get a PCR as soon as you can get to a test centre, so within about half an hour.

Then you will usually get the result before you wake up the next morning.

It's a very fast and efficient process.

Yeah so depending on first bogey time.

For context. Last time the school rang because my daughter didn't feel well, picked her up just after lunchtime and went for PCR.

Results arrived the next morning. Granted. She was still isolating so didn't go to school because it didn't come through in time.

That was before the omicron symptoms so she was more ill, but yeah still an afternoon off work and then maybe a morning.

You can't do that because of a runny nose. Especially if you don't get sick pay or are self employed.

 

[baldy]

It’s the sheer amount of testing & trying to look for the variant in people that’s made this all a big clusterfuck - I‘ve not got any of the symptoms so I’m not testing myself…simple
I might have cancer or a heart disease but I’m not showing any of the symptoms for those so I sure as fuck aren’t testing for what is,effectively,a cold & a sniffle
Get a grip

 

[PVA]

It’s the sheer amount of testing & trying to look for the variant in people that’s made this all a big clusterfuck - I‘ve not got any of the symptoms so I’m not testing myself…simple
I might have cancer or a heart disease but I’m not showing any of the symptoms for those so I sure as fuck aren’t testing for what is,effectively,a cold & a sniffle
Get a grip

If I could test several times a week for cancer or heart disease with a simple non intrusive test even if I didn't have symptoms then I absolutely would.

I think anyone would.

 

[baldy]

If I could test several times a week for cancer or heart disease with a simple non intrusive test even if I didn't have symptoms then I absolutely would.

I think anyone would.

So the good old winter colds of the past just HAS to be a variant of covid now does it?

 

[Philosoraptor]

 

[Kieranp96]

Well i am covid +, probably delta as where i am only a few omicron cases
, double vaccinated and been wearing mask in shops where needee, bit covid been going through misses family so reckon i got it from there on sundau or Tuesday before they tested +.

 

[Nick]

Well i am covid +, probably delta as where i am only a few omicron cases
, double vaccinated and been wearing mask in shops where needee, bit covid been going through misses family so reckon i got it from there on sundau or Tuesday before they tested +.

Hope you don't kill a granny over Christmas.

In all seriousness, hopefully will just be a sniffle.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...

 

[Saddlebrains]

 

[clint van damme]

State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

 

[Jamesimus]

State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.

 

[Philosoraptor]

State of this lot.
Im sure there's a very good reason why the MET are handling this with Kids gloves compared to the Sarah Everard vigil.

Just what is needed, a mass protest to do about Covid in a City that has just declared a major incident to do with Covid.

 

[Blind-Faith]

What a bunch of absolute fucking clowns. Surely they have got something better to do???

 

[Nick]

Get the bats out like old school.

 

[clint van damme]

"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.

They've been comparing themselves to victims of the holocaust as well, cretins.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Full lockdown just announced here, from 5am tomorrow. All shops and hospitality to close and my match has been cancelled tomorrow afternoon too. Think it could be a rough few weeks coming up.

Wish me luck lads.

 

[clint van damme]

Full lockdown just announced here, from 5am tomorrow. All shops and hospitality to close and my match has been cancelled tomorrow afternoon too. Think it could be a rough few weeks coming up.

Wish me luck lads.

Fucks sake. Putting to one side Wwhether or not it's the right thing to do it a really difficult thing to go through, especially having been through a couple already.

All you can do is tough it out. Good luck.

 

[clint van damme]

Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...View attachment 23192

Death lovers? You're a fucking weirdo

 

[Kieranp96]

Hope you don't kill a granny over Christmas.

In all seriousness, hopefully will just be a sniffle.

Will do my isolation, no granny here to kill , and more than a sniffle already, fatigued to the max i have alresdy had covid twice before and im double vaccinated im unlucky.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

"No medical apartheid", wtf, how can anyone think that is an acceptable choice of words for the situation.

We've had worse on this thread

 

[fernandopartridge]

Posted this on the football thread by accident.

However.

If you death lovers on this thread can handle some good news...View attachment 23192

I posted something similar to this days ago