No, you can talk about it when you want and in particular raise the issues that are live now (PPE or if we were breaching ICU/ventilator capacity etc) but I’m just saying you can’t make sweeping statements on the governments overall performance when we don’t know the outcome. As I say you may be right but you also might be wrong, only time will tell
I'm not saying it's not been underfunded. But to constantly blame everything on the Tories is fucking boring. Half this lot on here dont really give a fuck. Its just political point scoring. If the labour party didn't resemble a left wing squatters rights party then we wouldn't have to vote these cunts in every 4 years.Kier Starmer is going to be leader in about a week.
Also how would the person who was right about the need for properly equipped and funded public services be a disaster?
I hate to be the one to break it to you but Corbyn is about to be replaced. There is no Corbyn and Co, they’re an ex shadow government, they’ve expired, they are no more.
Still true though.This government? You dont even live here. It just fits your agenda.
I'm not saying it's not been underfunded. But to constantly blame everything on the Tories is fucking boring. Half this lot on here dont really give a fuck. Its just political point scoring. If the labour party didn't resemble a left wing squatters rights party then we wouldn't have to vote these cunts in every 4 years.
Wtf are you on about? Would I rather live in Italy? I've no clue what your on about.Ah, I see you've chosen answer 2 from the repertoire of stock responses.
1. "Its not the right time to talk about it"
2. "Labour would have been worse"
3. "Would you rather live in Italy"
4. "Its all down to the Chinese immigrants"
I'm sure you're about to stun me with an eloquent response now...
Just goes to show how irrelevant labour are these days then. They're a fucking shambles.I hate to be the one to break it to you but Corbyn is about to be replaced. There is no Corbyn and Co, they’re an ex shadow government, they’ve expired, they are no more.
Wtf are you on about? Would I rather live in Italy? I've no clue what your on about.
Personally I think that any life that is lost due to incompetence is one too many, the only one mouthing off and point scoring here is you.I'm not saying it's not been underfunded. But to constantly blame everything on the Tories is fucking boring. Half this lot on here dont really give a fuck. Its just political point scoring. If the labour party didn't resemble a left wing squatters rights party then we wouldn't have to vote these cunts in every 4 years.
I'm not saying it's not been underfunded. But to constantly blame everything on the Tories is fucking boring. Half this lot on here dont really give a fuck. Its just political point scoring. If the labour party didn't resemble a left wing squatters rights party then we wouldn't have to vote these cunts in every 4 years.
What's the alternative? The loony left labour party? Fucking hell yes the Tories arent the best Corbyn and co would be a fucking disaster.
The dirty Chinese? They fucking started this shit and now thousands are dieing because of them. What's immigration got to do with it? Stock response from the loony left.You are half right. The opposition is pathetic. But if you don't allocate responsibility to the people responsible for running the country, I'm not sure who you do allocate responsibility to, unless you go down your route and just blame the dirty Chinese and immigrants for everything.
You can have as many labs as you like, but they aren’t much help if you can’t get the equipment.Public Health England today expended testing capacity from 1 to 12 dedicated laboratories. So thats good news. Then you look at some other countries.. Germany has 174, South Korea has 96.
Its hard to not believe there may be an element of truth to this, we can't be this stupid, inept and incompetent can we?
You realise who has been in power the last ten years right? People aren’t complaining about the Tories because they’re mean old lefties, but because they’re actually in charge.
And considering the Tories have been more completely taken over by their looney fringe than Labour ever were (case in point: no one nation Tories left, lots of blairites left), not sure your “but I want a non looney party” argument holds much water either.
You can have as many labs as you like, but they aren’t much help if you can’t get the equipment.
Yes the stock response- "its not the right time to talk about this now."
But it was austerity that caused the underfunding of the NHS austerity was a political choice based on political desire for a small government and a faulty Harvard professors spreadsheet.I'm not saying it's not been underfunded. But to constantly blame everything on the Tories is fucking boring. Half this lot on here dont really give a fuck. Its just political point scoring. If the labour party didn't resemble a left wing squatters rights party then we wouldn't have to vote these cunts in every 4 years.
No it's not it's you lot wanking each other off again about the Tories. If your party werent such a joke then maybe the working class might vote for them again. You think I wanna vote tory? There the better of two evils.Personally I think that any life that is lost due to incompetence is one too many, the only one mouthing off and point scoring here is you.
My party? I am not a member of any political party and didn't vote for Corbyn either.No it's not it's you lot wanking each other off again about the Tories. If your party werent such a joke then maybe the working class might vote for them again. You think I wanna vote tory? There the better of two evils.
No it's not it's you lot wanking each other off again about the Tories. If your party werent such a joke then maybe the working class might vote for them again. You think I wanna vote tory? There the better of two evils.
This is the point. If it was someone else in power making the same mistakes, they'd get the same. But they're not. And haven't been for a decade.
I was under the impression austerity was done to the mess the labour party left the country in. We have to pay are way though surely. Hopefully after this shite has ended the Tories have got the kick up the arse they need to fund it properly.But it was austerity that caused the underfunding of the NHS austerity was a political choice based on political desire for a small government and a faulty Harvard professors spreadsheet.
Squatters rights? What is it about saying we need to properly fund all public services that is squatters rights?
Yeah but would you rather live in Italy?Funny how those that have an issue with people scoring political points can’t shut up about Corbyn as if he was relevant to how well the government perform.
Whys that then?I don't think a party exists that would suit your view of the world, not that hasn't been shut down anyway.
You keep saying we can’t compare other countries but that is nonsense as in the end we will have to to evaluate what everyone did well and what went wrong
Indeed we will but each country is made up differently. Different age distributions, different populations and population densities, different cultural habits/underlying health of the population. Pollutant levels may also be a factor given it's a respiratory disease. Potentially even the climate could be a factor.
What one country does successfully may have been a disaster elsewhere. So while there will inevitably be comparison, the huge amount of uncontrollable variables will compromise it.
My party? I am not a member of any political party and didn't vote for Corbyn either.
The mess the labour party left us in? It was a global financial crisis started in the US when they repealed Glass-Steagal and the following pushing of sub prime leaning which then went bad. These sub prime loans were then packaged as derivatives which were somehow given AAA ratings by the credit ratings agencies and sold to other banks worldwide which spread the financial contagion. This reduced liquidity 8n the financial markets and a restriction of credit triggering a global recession.I was under the impression austerity was done to the mess the labour party left the country in. We have to pay are way though surely. Hopefully after this shite has ended the Tories have got the kick up the arse they need to fund it properly.
So you are saying that ignoring and then lying about equipment procurement schemes, failing to communicate clearly, herd immunity, failing to equip health workers, failing to increase test levels and lying about it etc are somehow due to the air quality in the UK? Righto, glad thats cleared up. I was beginning to think they were just incompetent.
Just think of all those oap Brexit voters that have died. I'm sure you've raised a glass or two?So you are saying that ignoring and then lying about equipment procurement schemes, failing to communicate clearly, herd immunity, failing to equip health workers, failing to increase test levels and lying about it etc are somehow due to the air quality in the UK? Righto, glad thats cleared up. I was beginning to think they were just incompetent.
I was under the impression austerity was done to the mess the labour party left the country in. We have to pay are way though surely. Hopefully after this shite has ended the Tories have got the kick up the arse they need to fund it properly.
Just think of all those oap Brexit voters that have died. I'm sure you've raised a glass or two?
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