Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (191 Viewers)

[SkyBlueDom26]

Deaths down again!!! What about cases??​

 

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[skybluesam66]

sorry 441

 

[skybluetony176]

Mental first, i hope

Lie detector

 

[David O'Day]

RIP Peps mum, football means fuck all sometimes

 

[Saddlebrains]

So deaths have dropped by 300.

Then there is this....

Several Merseyside hospitals record no new coronavirus deaths



Whats happening? Thought we were peaking now?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

So deaths have dropped by 300.

Then there is this....

Several Merseyside hospitals record no new coronavirus deaths



Whats happening? Thought we were peaking now?

We might have already peaked deaths wise

 

[skybluesam66]

We might have already peaked deaths wise

unlikely - would need to see a full week. I think they were saying 20000 as an optimistic guess - keep below that, and it is just a bad winter's flu in terms o fdeaths

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We might have already peaked deaths wise

Its a lovely thought but I'd be amazed unfortunately.

 

[Sbarcher]

This is an interesting conspiracy theory! (sorry if it's already been posted amongst the previous 377 pages)

Worth the read- and definitely thought provoking.... or confirming! This was sent to me.. not my information.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!
Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km
Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km
Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km
Wuhan to NY = 15,000km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.
All business areas of China are now safe.
Something is fishy.
America is not just blaming China without a reason.
Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.
Something is fishy.
The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.
Something is fishy.
The Coronavirus originated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.
Something is fishy
Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy.
Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.
Something is fishy
Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.
Something is fishy
Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy
Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.
Something is fishy
This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.
China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.
Something is fishy
Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!

 

[cc84cov]

unlikely - would need to see a full week. I think they were saying 20000 as an optimistic guess - keep below that, and it is just a bad winter's flu in terms o fdeaths

I think we’ve peaked personally

 

[David O'Day]

This is an interesting conspiracy theory! (sorry if it's already been posted amongst the previous 377 pages)

Worth the read- and definitely thought provoking.... or confirming! This was sent to me.. not my information.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!
Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km
Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km
Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km
Wuhan to NY = 15,000km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.
All business areas of China are now safe.
Something is fishy.
America is not just blaming China without a reason.
Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.
Something is fishy.
The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.
Something is fishy.
The Coronavirus originated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.
Something is fishy
Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy.
Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.
Something is fishy
Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.
Something is fishy
Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy
Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.
Something is fishy
This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.
China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.
Something is fishy
Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!

Head wasps

 

[David O'Day]

I think we’ve peaked personally

Think will go up again tomorrow

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

I find the whole debate around the premier league players sensationalist reporting. Especially given that players are considered assets of the companies they serve and this places clubs in a difficult contractual position if the break their signed agreements.
In comparison we have the water companies asking to be allowed to default on their statutory responsibilities and looking for a financial bailout from the government.
These are the same private equity companies that have paid massive share holder dividends over the past 10+ years whilst saddling their companies with debt and failing to meet targets.
It’s a shame our press aren’t giving this more coverage as it’s worth billions to the country and you and I are paying for it!

 

[Grendel]

Because I am living it and breathing it, have spoken to HMRC, have spoken to people that are involved in setting the portal up, and on a twice weekly basis I attend webinars with many other people facing the same issues in the London area across different industries in order to pool knowledge to be as well prepared as its possible to be, because the info coming out changes every day (as it would when you're setting something like this up in such a short space of time).

That’s odd as we are furloughing people and we’ve been advised the only HMRC review is if people meet the criteria

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

I think we’ve peaked personally

The figures only refer to deaths in hospitals. I hope you’re right, but not sure we’ve seen the peak yet . There are reports of care homes being told not to send residents to hospital and only treat them there

 

[Johhny Blue]

All I can say to you, which is not much but very much meant, is please give your son massive massive best wishes and thank him. I don't think anyone will forget what him & his colleagues are doing.

The Nurses and all frontline healthcare workers will become this generations version of War Heroes

 

[Saddlebrains]

I think we’ve peaked personally

Lets hope so, can see us being off lockdown by end of the month if so

 

[Sick Boy]

About the furloughing in the UK, is it like here in that you can be placed on furlough for a certain percentage of time and then work as normal the rest?

At the moment I’m working from home as normal 50% of the time and the other 50% is paid by the government (80%).

Is that possible in the UK as well? Or is it you either work 100% of 0% but can furlough pay?

 

[Otis]

This is an interesting conspiracy theory! (sorry if it's already been posted amongst the previous 377 pages)

Worth the read- and definitely thought provoking.... or confirming! This was sent to me.. not my information.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!
Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km
Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km
Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km
Wuhan to NY = 15,000km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.
All business areas of China are now safe.
Something is fishy.
America is not just blaming China without a reason.
Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.
Something is fishy.
The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.
Something is fishy.
The Coronavirus originated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.
Something is fishy
Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy.
Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.
Something is fishy
Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.
Something is fishy
Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy
Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.
Something is fishy
This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.
China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.
Something is fishy
Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!

Or, China have simply lied about the amount of deaths.

I know which one my money's on.

 

[Grendel]

The figures only refer to deaths in hospitals. I hope you’re right, but not sure we’ve seen the peak yet . There are reports of care homes being told not to send residents to hospital and only treat them there

Unfortunately that is happening across all of Europe and other than Spain deaths are not in the figures

 

[fernandopartridge]

We have not yet peaked, the reported deaths aren't what happened on that day, they're just what has been reported that day. I think we'll get to mid April before we've peaked (being optimistic).

 

[Grendel]

About the furloughing in the UK, is it like here in that you can be placed on furlough for a certain percentage of time and then work as normal the rest?

At the moment I’m working from home as normal 50% of the time and the other 50% is paid by the government (80%).

Is that possible in the UK as well? Or is it you either work 100% of 0% but can furlough pay?

You can’t work. Is the italy scheme running? Bbc are running a series on Italy and casual workers have received nothing on some scheme and they were showing some pretty desperate scenes in Rome

 

[fernandopartridge]

This is an interesting conspiracy theory! (sorry if it's already been posted amongst the previous 377 pages)

Worth the read- and definitely thought provoking.... or confirming! This was sent to me.. not my information.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!
Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km
Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km
Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km
Wuhan to NY = 15,000km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.
All business areas of China are now safe.
Something is fishy.
America is not just blaming China without a reason.
Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.
Something is fishy.
The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.
Something is fishy.
The Coronavirus originated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.
Something is fishy
Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy.
Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.
Something is fishy
Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.
Something is fishy
Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy
Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.
Something is fishy
This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.
China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.
Something is fishy
Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!

Yes, nothing like taking out all of your export markets to exert your economic power. These conspiracy theorists are cretins.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

About the furloughing in the UK, is it like here in that you can be placed on furlough for a certain percentage of time and then work as normal the rest?

At the moment I’m working from home as normal 50% of the time and the other 50% is paid by the government (80%).

Is that possible in the UK as well? Or is it you either work 100% of 0% but can furlough pay?

100 or none

 

[Saddlebrains]

We have not yet peaked, the reported deaths aren't what happened on that day, they're just what has been reported that day. I think we'll get to mid April before we've peaked (being optimistic).

To be fair i did read an article (cant find the link now) which stated we are actually 7-10 days behind Italy and Spain not the 10-14 reported.

This due, mainly to the fact that we left our borders open, and the apparent lack of checks at airports, ferry terminals etc.

I am hoping, really hoping this is the case, if we can keep any death rate below 10k, although horrendous, then even the most ardant leftie would have to doff their cap to the government and scientists

 

[Sick Boy]

You can’t work. Is the italy scheme running? Bbc are running a series on Italy and casual workers have received nothing on some scheme and they were showing some pretty desperate scenes in Rome

Yeah the scheme has been in place since the start of the month and means businesses can keep some kind of activity going on.

Unfortunately a lot of small business owners I know in the UK are really really struggling at the moment.

It’s up to the business how much time each individual employee can work during the period and the time not work is paid by the government but 80% of salary.

The government have now done a law to address the issue with casual aka cash in hand/black money work and I think something like €600million in food vouchers.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

That’s odd as we are furloughing people and we’ve been advised the only HMRC review is if people meet the criteria

I would venture to suggest that won't turn out to be true, however there is no point arguing as nobody knows for sure, its a little risky for any company to build in the assumptions you'll automatically qualify. If you have the cashflow to cover, why would you be given the cash at the potential expense of companies that can't- I don't think that is an unreasonable point for the govt to make. They will be asking companies to demonstrate why they cannot meet the expense themselves, that will be cashflow statement & management accounts.

 

[Tommo1993]

Aren’t we running at a steeper angle than Italy now? In the wrong direction.

 

[skybluesam66]

I would venture to suggest that won't turn out to be true, however there is no point arguing as nobody knows for sure, its a little risky for any company to build in the assumptions you'll automatically qualify. If you have the cashflow to cover, why would you be given the cash at the potential expense of companies that can't- I don't think that is an unreasonable point for the govt to make. They will be asking companies to demonstrate why they cannot meet the expense themselves, that will be cashflow statement & management accounts.

very unlikely . Government have committed to the support, they cannot then back track

I work for a company with 6000+ uk employees - some parts have loads of work - others have none

The Government cannot then cripple every successful company

Think about it

 

[David O'Day]

The Nurses and all frontline healthcare workers will become this generations version of War Heroes

Anyone who has to go to work to help people is a hero from NHS staff to supermarket staff, bus drivers and postmen.

Also why just care about the frontline staff? Porters and cleaners are fucking vital.

 

[David O'Day]

We have not yet peaked, the reported deaths aren't what happened on that day, they're just what has been reported that day. I think we'll get to mid April before we've peaked (being optimistic).

At the risk of being too much like astute I'd think the 12th to 14th

 

[David O'Day]

Aren’t we running at a steeper angle than Italy now? In the wrong direction.

No

 

[Magwitch]

There are more well paid and rich people than footballers, where do you start tv personalities,

Inter-species transmission does occur but is rare and quite often goes no further than the initial host it was transferred to. People also tend to die quickly in such cases because their immune system isn't set up to cope with it in any way.

It's the rare instances when they are then transmissible between humans that we really start to see problems.

I still won’t look at a pussy in quiet the same way again.

 

[Johhny Blue]

Anyone who has to go to work to help people is a hero from NHS staff to supermarket staff, bus drivers and postmen.

Also why just care about the frontline staff? Porters and cleaners are fucking vital.

There was a suggestion yesterday for you to get a dictionary. If you did go to "F" (It's between "E" & "G") and look up "Frontline".
No-one said all jobs aren't important.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

This is an interesting conspiracy theory! (sorry if it's already been posted amongst the previous 377 pages)

Worth the read- and definitely thought provoking.... or confirming! This was sent to me.. not my information.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!
Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km
Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km
Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km
Wuhan to NY = 15,000km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.
All business areas of China are now safe.
Something is fishy.
America is not just blaming China without a reason.
Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.
Something is fishy.
The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.
Something is fishy.
The Coronavirus originated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.
Something is fishy
Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy.
Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.
Something is fishy
Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.
Something is fishy
Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.
Something is fishy
Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.
Something is fishy
This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.
China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.
Something is fishy
Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.
SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!

You don't seriously buy into this fanciful nonsense do you?