Agreed. Just to clarify I wasn’t intending to compare countries by the way, I was just highlighting what the recent US model indicated (its inaccurate !)
That number includes the number of people who recovered.Total cases numbers up alot aint they mate? 3039 yesterday compared to 3836 today....
Good news that deaths and intensive care numbers down!
With different countries stats being measured differently its hard to be certain but when its all over I'm sure the data will be poured over and the numbers crunched so it is comparable. If that shows we've done significantly worse than other countries there will be questions to answer. As you suggest we should really be in a stronger position than other countries given a two week head start and the fact we're an island.
No way. We’re at 7k now and a week from peak, you’d assume as many after peak as before surely. Then you’ve got to add in all those outside hospital and those extra deaths not directly from CV. We’d do very well to keep it below 20k all told on current projections. There’s every chance we’re close to that already.
Have a look at the data from ten days ago: Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
You can’t discount every death not directly attributed to CV, you’ve got to look at total increase in deaths compared to a normal year. Half the problem is the overloaded healthcare system itself.
Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
938 deaths, bloody hell
Italy's highest daily count was 919, Spain's was 961.
France had a few days over 1000 but they included deaths outside of hospital, which ours don't.
We've absolutely fucked it. This is awful. Two week headstart and we're in this position. Dom and Grendel can defend the government's early response all they like, but the government has blood on their hands.
Nice to see my post got the usual response from the frothing leftie crybaby's. Just cant help yourselves can you. When the Tories get us through this,boris and co will get another 10 years. How's it feel children?
Fine Young Cannibalsfrothing leftie crybaby's
Didn’t you imply that someone who once voted UKIP was a racist earlier today?Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi.
Oh pipe down you racist little rat.Nice to see my post got the usual response from the frothing leftie crybaby's. Just cant help yourselves can you. When the Tories get us through this,boris and co will get another 10 years. How's it feel children?
I have tried saying this all along. The deaths counted were reported on that day and in tbe past so.e deaths have taken a week or so to be reported.You do realise 938 haven’t died in 24 hours don’t you?
Nice to see my post got the usual response from the frothing leftie crybaby's. Just cant help yourselves can you. When the Tories get us through this,boris and co will get another 10 years. How's it feel children?
He's more milli vanilliFine Young Cannibals
938 deaths, bloody hell
Italy's highest daily count was 919, Spain's was 961.
France had a few days over 1000 but they included deaths outside of hospital, which ours don't.
We've absolutely fucked it. This is awful. Two week headstart and we're in this position. Dom and Grendel can defend the government's early response all they like, but the government has blood on their hands.
I thought we had started recording deaths out side of hospitals?
I'm fairly sure that according to the ONS that started last week. Could be wrong
Daily reports are in hospital deaths only:
“of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus”
pretty sure I saw a study where the figures are 80% understated because they use NHS and not ONS. It’s definitely worse than what we see.
pretty sure I saw a study where the figures are 80% understated because they use NHS and not ONS. It’s definitely worse than what we see.
Guess you must have missed this Subscribe to read | Financial Times
and this 'Free Robinson' march images released
and missed the calls for this Far-right groups threaten to riot at London protests over Brexit bill
Weird how it's not 'leftie wankers with dyed hair' that the police are looking to question in that second one, thought normal working class blokes didn't go to protests?
80% worse lol
You do realise 938 haven’t died in 24 hours don’t you?
Yeah the FT had a piece. I posted the ONS stats up earlier most recent is about ten days ago I think.
As I said to Steve half the problem is we can’t agree on what we’re counting. Is the 20k excess deaths or Covid directly?
Yes. Doesn't matter though, the numbers have got to match up. Imagine what the daily figures are going to be this time next week, it's going to be horrific.
We're posting higher numbers than Italy have at any point. Good job we sat around and did nothing with our two week headstart.
Yes. Doesn't matter though, the numbers have got to match up. Imagine what the daily figures are going to be this time next week, it's going to be horrific.
We're posting higher numbers than Italy have at any point. Good job we sat around and did nothing with our two week headstart.
It’s known that deaths in Italy are hugely understated as I’ve said
There are huge discrepancies between year on year deaths double in some regions versus reported deaths by the disease
The uk do report deaths such as Eddie Large as a Coronavirus death whereas other countries would not as he’d been admitted with a condition and eould not have been tested
France admit the deaths in care homes are estimates and far worse - uk has 13 die in 1 home today which was not recorded
Spain are trying to record deaths where patients showed symptoms
Mr. I have a great compassion for human life over herelol people dying is funny.
Not sure what other countries have to do with it, this isn’t the place for your “Johnny Foreigner isn’t as great as us Brits” bit I’m afraid.
He’s talking about a comparison between NHS and ONS figures, NHS figures which they admit aren’t the whole story or properly time correlated. Those are two British institutions.
It’s acknowledge Italy has a much higher death toll than reported - I assume you acknowledge that
I’ve said people in care homes in the you have t been reported - I have seen nothing that suggests it’s 80% under called have you? And the point regarding other countries is that when PVA makes comparisons to other countries he is doing it off a different measuring criteria and therefore can’t be used for analysis
Scary to hear today that a 36 year old bus driver in was in hospital with the virus, improved and was discharged, but then died at home after a very rapid decline.That number includes the number of people who recovered.
lol people dying is funny.
I thought we had started recording deaths out side of hospitals?
I'm fairly sure that according to the ONS that started last week. Could be wrong
Scary to hear today that a 36 year old bus driver in was in hospital with the virus, improved and was discharged, but then died at home after a very rapid decline.
How are we ever going to know if someone has properly recovered?
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