Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (86 Viewers)

David O'Day · Apr 29, 2020

It's not unknown though, there's 100s of years of economic data. People with less money spend less so what you need to do is create demand. The most common method of this is by counter cyclical spending in which government spending creates work and the wages of said work are spent in te wider economy supporting more jobs ancvtheceages from these jobs are then spent in the economy creating more jobs and so on.

You can't just reopen the economy, you need to throw some money ag if as well.

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Astute · Apr 30, 2020

shmmeee said:
Yeah I think so. Though maybe a bit later. We seem to be going to a strategy of a bigger wave at first then hopefully nothing whereas Spain have shut down tighter so may well get a second wave.

My theory is a lot of it is down to how 'friendly' a lot of Europeans are. Their families are closer and have lose greetings. So it spread very quickly. Spain had it very bad. Their lockdown was very tight. Their kids have only just been let out after 2 months. Maybe that is how our very soft 'lockdown' has started to work.

Of this is correct they will be able to do something similar to us but stop greeting each other as they normally do.

clint van damme · Apr 30, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
a pub is a pub and im gasping for a proper pint but I'd rather be tee total for life and drink a tramps piss every day than give that twat any more money.

The fucking tramp has had his last penny out of me.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 30, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
I literally don’t have a clue

It's reassuring that in these times of uncertainty, some things never change.

fernandopartridge · Apr 30, 2020

clint van damme said:
The fucking tramp has had his last penny out of me.

Me too.

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 30, 2020

This captain Tom stuff is lovely. I so hope our beloved party of austerity do something about recognising it that makes up for years of salaries not keeping up with inflation

David O'Day · Apr 30, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
This captain Tom stuff is lovely. I so hope our beloved party of austerity do something about recognising it that makes up for years of salaries not keeping up with inflation

Not going to happen as that would mean the tory party admitting austerity was wrong

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Nick · Apr 30, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
This captain Tom stuff is lovely. I so hope our beloved party of austerity do something about recognising it that makes up for years of salaries not keeping up with inflation

What I like about him is that he has done so much but is humble with it.

fernandopartridge · Apr 30, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
This captain Tom stuff is lovely. I so hope our beloved party of austerity do something about recognising it that makes up for years of salaries not keeping up with inflation

It doesn't do anything of the sort even if they do, it is tokenistic horse shit. The whole thing is an utter embarrassment, not taking anything, away from Tom.

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
It doesn't do anything of the sort even if they do, it is tokenistic horse shit. The whole thing is an utter embarrassment, not taking anything, away from Tom.

I just hope all of the millions being raised by everything is used properly and that it doesn't go towards administrator or non medical consultant types.

fernandopartridge · Apr 30, 2020

Nick said:
I just hope all of the millions being raised by everything is used properly and that it doesn't go towards administrator or non medical consultant types.

A medical consultant is a doctor? You mean a management consultant. They'd be better off spending the money on equipment or other capex

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

To be fair, he is talking a lot of sense on this.

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
A medical consultant is a doctor? You mean a management consultant. They'd be better off spending the money on equipment or other capex

Yeah I meant non medical consultant, like some dickhead who comes in on a grand a day to tell people to move some chairs about.

They should use it to scrap the shitty paid TV systems and shocking wifi they have

CCFCSteve · Apr 30, 2020

Nick said:
To be fair, he is talking a lot of sense on this.

Spot on Eddie....he probably popped on here for 15 mins !!! Media and social media is awash with negativity. Yes, there is lots of bad news around but the better news stories are either ignored, played down or spun into something negative.....even Colonel Tom on his 100th birthday !

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

The thing that pisses me off about Colonel Tom is that people in the media try to "own" him as if they should take credit for it. Obviously they helped push it and publicise it but it's when others take it and try and make it about them.

chiefdave · Apr 30, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
It doesn't do anything of the sort even if they do, it is tokenistic horse shit. The whole thing is an utter embarrassment, not taking anything, away from Tom.

Talking of tokenistic horse shit just had a message pop up on Facebook that this Thursday we're supposed to have a 2 minute silence at 7.58pm for people who have died then at 8pm clap for NHS and at 8.05pm sing Happy Birthday to Captain Tom.

covmark · Apr 30, 2020

chiefdave said:
Talking of tokenistic horse shit just had a message pop up on Facebook that this Thursday we're supposed to have a 2 minute silence at 7.58pm for people who have died then at 8pm clap for NHS and at 8.05pm sing Happy Birthday to Captain Tom.

Fuck, that must be a wind up.

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Nick · Apr 30, 2020

chiefdave said:
Talking of tokenistic horse shit just had a message pop up on Facebook that this Thursday we're supposed to have a 2 minute silence at 7.58pm for people who have died then at 8pm clap for NHS and at 8.05pm sing Happy Birthday to Captain Tom.

Really?

I bet if somebody does it then whoever posted it will be claiming they did it all.

It's like the clap for a minute on 5 minutes and boo for 2 minutes on 10 minutes type shit at football matches.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 30, 2020

chiefdave said:
Talking of tokenistic horse shit just had a message pop up on Facebook that this Thursday we're supposed to have a 2 minute silence at 7.58pm for people who have died then at 8pm clap for NHS and at 8.05pm sing Happy Birthday to Captain Tom.

I can't keep up.

CCFCSteve · Apr 30, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
I can't keep up.

me neither, could be embarrassing if your clocks are out and you start singing happy birthday or banging your saucepan during the two minutes silence

clint van damme · Apr 30, 2020

chiefdave said:
Talking of tokenistic horse shit just had a message pop up on Facebook that this Thursday we're supposed to have a 2 minute silence at 7.58pm for people who have died then at 8pm clap for NHS and at 8.05pm sing Happy Birthday to Captain Tom.

8.08 shame anyone not joining in.
8.10 post picture from 2 weeks ago of London bridge to get people angry

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 30, 2020

CCFCSteve said:
me neither, could be embarrassing if your clocks are out and you start singing happy birthday or banging your saucepan during the two minutes silence

You know, I can buy the applause (although I fear we end up doing it just so if we need our neighbours' help we look halfway community minded!) I can buy a happy birthday to Captain Tom (not sure I'm comfortable with a 100yo having to fund the NHS rather than taxes, but that's not against him, that), but it's getting far too confusing!

Still, off to buy my rocket launcher to send all manner of detritus into the air in celebration!

clint van damme · Apr 30, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
You know, I can buy the applause (although I fear we end up doing it just so if we need our neighbours' help we look halfway community minded!) I can buy a happy birthday to Captain Tom (not sure I'm comfortable with a 100yo having to fund the NHS rather than taxes, but that's not against him, that), but it's getting far too confusing!

Still, off to buy my rocket launcher to send all manner of detritus into the air in celebration!

As some one said on Twitter Matt Hancock has urged Captain Tom to increase his fund raising efforts and has demanded he keeps walking but while juggling chainsaws

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
You know, I can buy the applause (although I fear we end up doing it just so if we need our neighbours' help we look halfway community minded!) I can buy a happy birthday to Captain Tom (not sure I'm comfortable with a 100yo having to fund the NHS rather than taxes, but that's not against him, that), but it's getting far too confusing!

Still, off to buy my rocket launcher to send all manner of detritus into the air in celebration!

It is all tokenistic, things will keep being added because somebody on Facebook thought of it and they will get loads of likes and "well dones" after.

wingy · Apr 30, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
I can't keep up.

There's s blue tablet for that.

David O'Day · Apr 30, 2020

clint van damme said:
8.08 shame anyone not joining in.
8.10 post picture from 2 weeks ago of London bridge to get people angry

They did do the bridge thing again last week

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Deleted member 5849 · Apr 30, 2020

wingy said:
There's s blue tablet for that.

They've got rid of the Viagra advert with jaunty music, it's now all about Numan!

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

David O'Day said:
They did do the bridge thing again last week

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Wonder if they will close the bridge off tonight and the police will police it like they do for a couple on an empty beach.

wingy · Apr 30, 2020

clint van damme said:
As some one said on Twitter Matt Hancock has urged Captain Tom to increase his fund raising efforts and has demanded he keeps walking but while juggling chainsaws

I really don't want to feel as I do on this as I'm sure Tom is a fine fellow

But it feels like a massive virtue signalling jamboree for breakfast telly presenters and an ignorance of reality.
I can't speak for others and Might be wrong but it could really weigh heavily on the families of victims

wingy · Apr 30, 2020

Nick said:
Wonder if they will close the bridge off tonight and the police will police it like they do for a couple on an empty beach.

Fookin hell Nick you've really fell off of it the last few days.
Is it the return to work?
Lol

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

wingy said:
I really don't want to feel as I do on this as I'm sure Tom is a fine fellow

But it feels like a massive virtue signalling jamboree for breakfast telly presenters and an ignorance of reality.
I can't speak for others and Might be wrong but it could really weigh heavily on the families of victims

It does feel like it's a battle of which channel loves Tom more.

Nick · Apr 30, 2020

wingy said:
Fookin hell Nick you've really fell off of it the last few days.
Is it the return to work?
Lol

Don't think I have ever been on it!

Although physically returning to work and just not from home has really opened my eyes to how more and more people aren't arsed about a lockdown.

clint van damme · Apr 30, 2020

David O'Day said:
They did do the bridge thing again last week

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They did. But some of the pictures in the mail were from the week before.
The express Brighton beach picture was from last year but it was enough to get people worked up.

David O'Day · Apr 30, 2020

Nick said:
Wonder if they will close the bridge off tonight and the police will police it like they do for a couple on an empty beach.

They have told people to stay away to be fair

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David O'Day · Apr 30, 2020

clint van damme said:
They did. But some of the pictures in the mail were from the week before.
The express Brighton beach picture was from last year but it was enough to get people worked up.

It was overcrowded last week as well. You can tell the second weeks pictures as there are crowds of people on the terraces around the bridge

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