Ring Of Steel
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Bad news for those amongst us going a bit thin on top...
Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
Looks a bit different to the positions on the Political Compass website.
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Yeah not sure what PC bases it’s positions off. This is the source for the animation, never heard of them before but was retweeted among political data Twitter so happy to trust it until given reason not to.
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Resign from what?? You want him to stop being an MP? I don’t think anyone’s asked for Cummings to stop being an advisor or Jenrick to stop being an MP, just that they lose their role in government.
Im not moving anything - I just see a great big dose of hypocrisy. Some on here tried to claim Mr Cummings trip was responsible for a spike in Durham deaths. I don’t think those same people have said Mr Gardiber should resign unless I missed something. I’ll have a look
September now for the track and trace app
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CEO of Serco is Tory c**t Nicholas' brother. Jobs for the boys with these scumbags.
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In this case, I assume the delay in implementing from today is to give people a chance to get / make them.What is the relevance of June 15th as a date for all these UK measures atm?
See public transport etc. masks compulsory from June 15th. why not from today or even better from the beginning?
One of the 1st measures here was masks for public transport and no overcrowding either.
Only correlation is the non-essential shops opening on the 15th June I believe. Also gives people time to obtain them in some wayWhat is the relevance of June 15th as a date for all these UK measures atm?
See public transport etc. masks compulsory from June 15th. why not from today or even better from the beginning?
One of the 1st measures here was masks for public transport and no overcrowding either.
Ha. Okay I'd buy a wig and see if that fools itBad news for those amongst us going a bit thin on top...
Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
Grant Shapps embarrassing himself (again) on the radio this morning.
Even gave it the 'we've only been in government since December' defence.
Just pathetic. That's the excuse that Karen and Barry on facebook use to defend their precious Boris, not an excuse you'd expect to hear from a cabinet minister ffs.
Grant Shapps embarrassing himself (again) on the radio this morning.
Even gave it the 'we've only been in government since December' defence.
Just pathetic. That's the excuse that Karen and Barry on facebook use to defend their precious Boris, not an excuse you'd expect to hear from a cabinet minister ffs.
What I don't get is you can still be for the general concept of what the Tory party stands for, you can still be for Brexit... but you can still accept that the messaging around this whole thing has been pretty awful from our side.Indeed, but the point is that it resonates with the Karens of this world. I've seen a few posts on facebook of people saying its unprecedented, as if it is only the UK for whom this was unprecedented. People just see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. The brexit and subsequent election campaigns, from the Tory side have built this bizarre siege mentality "It's us or them" type thing and people for some reason do not see through it, or like somebody said, they don't want to reflect on what a fool they were for swallowing the crap.
It's still a Govt that was going on about being able to take strong, decisive measures on areas like Brexit and other policy areas but has failed at the 1st hurdle with COVID.What I don't get is you can still be for the general concept of what the Tory party stands for, you can still be for Brexit... but you can still accept that the messaging around this whole thing has been pretty awful from our side.
That doesn't invalidate your other points of view (although there may be arguments to be made about how if this is how they manage this particular area, how are they going to manage the rest... but let's start by moving a little first, eh)
As I said, there's certainly an argument to be made... but the 'art' as it were, is to get moving towards a consensus, surely?It's still a Govt that was going on about being able to take strong, decisive measures on areas like Brexit and other policy areas but has failed at the 1st hurdle with COVID.
What I don't get is you can still be for the general concept of what the Tory party stands for, you can still be for Brexit... but you can still accept that the messaging around this whole thing has been pretty awful from our side.
That doesn't invalidate your other points of view (although there may be arguments to be made about how if this is how they manage this particular area, how are they going to manage the rest... but let's start by moving a little first, eh)
As I said, there's certainly an argument to be made... but the 'art' as it were, is to get moving towards a consensus, surely?
The consensus on this pandemic is that the government needs to improve its messaging, and develop a strategy. If it does that it has a positive knock on effect for other things. If not, we need to be united that it's not good enough and that we as a people deserve better.
When you swallow the sound bites and easy answers, and rub it in everyone’s face, you don’t have a right to complain. It’s incumbent on those with better and more popular policies and ideas to get better at electioneering.
SK now has it's track and trace down to 1 hour .
Yeah but ours is world leading.SK now has it's track and trace down to 1 hour .
Indeed, but the point is that it resonates with the Karens of this world. I've seen a few posts on facebook of people saying its unprecedented, as if it is only the UK for whom this was unprecedented. People just see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. The brexit and subsequent election campaigns, from the Tory side have built this bizarre siege mentality "It's us or them" type thing and people for some reason do not see through it, or like somebody said, they don't want to reflect on what a fool they were for swallowing the crap.
What I don't get is you can still be for the general concept of what the Tory party stands for, you can still be for Brexit... but you can still accept that the messaging around this whole thing has been pretty awful from our side.
That doesn't invalidate your other points of view (although there may be arguments to be made about how if this is how they manage this particular area, how are they going to manage the rest... but let's start by moving a little first, eh)
You are dead right. If it was only the communication and message that the government got wrong then that wouldn't have been so bad, but when you make huge blunders of everything and then compound it with nonsensical communication & lies then you really do have a recipe for a complete catastrophe.
At the start we had people saying "not the time to call them out", "they are listening to scientists", parking all logic in some kind of act of blind faith (hope?), and in fact getting pretty wound up that some in the media/ elsewhere were pointing out the glaringly obvious mistakes, as if it was somehow in bad taste. As it turns out, surprise surprise, it was actually dead right to call out the mistakes that were being made. All this stupidity of putting unquestioning faith in what the govt said was always going to be a disaster- I mean look at them, incompetent, patently dishonest & pathetically inept- it was obvious from day one they were going to end up top of the pile for "worst handling of the virus", and thats exactly how it has turned out. Too many people happily consuming the soundbites & reassuring words, looking for a bit of hope which blinded them to reality, which is that these people have killed thousands while telling you that you should be proud of how they have handled it. Unbelievable stupidity, political loyalties or just desperate for hope, who knows, but if there is one thing to come out of it then I hope its that people stop swallowing all the bullshit from the govt and call it out as it is. Like you say- if you keep swallowing it then you're the mug, you're behaving exactly as they want you to and you have zero right to complain.
It's not about an ability to deliver messages all the time. In this specific case it's about delivering definite, enforced rules, not advisable guidelines. Advisable guidelines don't work - eg pictures of the beaches etc. last few weeks, unclear fining systems and so on.As I said, there's certainly an argument to be made... but the 'art' as it were, is to get moving towards a consensus, surely?
The consensus on this pandemic is that the government needs to improve its messaging, and develop a strategy. If it does that it has a positive knock on effect for other things. If not, we need to be united that it's not good enough and that we as a people deserve better.
Think things got a bit tasty
I don't think he did. From what I read he began to feel unwell at work
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