Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
To me that says 1m is only acceptable due to economic pressures not health and safety.
So 1m is not safe but we value the economy more than the lives of our citizens.
1m plus where 2m is not possible.
So they haven't signed off on 1m being safe then
If anywhere is already well-versed in using PPE it’s nail bars.
Why does it seem that Starmer has a far greater knowledge of what is needed to reopen industries than the PM?
Embarrassing and people are asking him friendly questions and offering to support him
But joking aside how the fuck have they spent 11 million quid in 3 months?
There are many software developers pointing out you can run whole companies for years on a couple of million.
When he said you can't restart cricket as the cricket ball is a "natural vector" blah blah he does realise teh 1st tets vs teh windies starts in 2 weeks?
Clubs have already been holding net sessions under compliance measures from the ECB for ages
Hahaha mr u-turn won’t be hammering nobody, bet ya gutted he’s actually backed boris on looseningPMQs tomorrow will be interesting
Starmer can't hammer him too much today but give it 24 hours for any fucks and they'll bury him again.
Hahaha mr u-turn won’t be hammering nobody, bet ya gutted he’s actually backed boris on loosening
Hahaha mr u-turn won’t be hammering nobody, bet ya gutted he’s actually backed boris on loosening
mr u-turn? Dom needs helpdoesn't it bother you that Johnson has just stood up and told a blatant lie to the house and to the public, (not for the first time).
Yeah Drayford
Once again you talk utter shite
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2) Once again why do you persist with the notion that we don't want to see the country reopen? We've explained this to you many times even though every other country is doing it and it’s safe to c
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I do worry about you
You know, this is as pathetic a retort as others saying you want people to die just because you fancy a pint.You moan and bitch every time we loosen restrictions, it’s clear you don’t want us to reopen no matter how many people lose their jobs
Why does he moan every time we loosen then? Or you just gonna miss that point out entirelyYou know, this is as pathetic a retort as others saying you want people to die just because you fancy a pint.
Why are you so desperate for a pint no matter what? Or you just gonna miss that point out entirelyWhy does he moan every time we loosen then? Or you just gonna miss that point out entirely
You moan and bitch every time we loosen restrictions, it’s clear you don’t want us to reopen no matter how many people lose their jobs
Why are you so desperate for a pint no matter what? Or you just gonna miss that point out entirely
The problem is, in a general sense, that I'd like to think I'm reasonably disposed to following a government at times like this. I'm also happy they'll make mistakes, things won't pan out as anticipated, and it'll be rocky.another lie, he can't help himself.
Johnson says he continue to works closely with the Welsh assembly, Drayford says he hasn't spoken to Johnson for weeks.
Sounds like someone's lying,
You moan and bitch every time we loosen restrictions, it’s clear you don’t want us to reopen no matter how many people lose their jobs
The problem is, in a general sense, that I'd like to think I'm reasonably disposed to following a government at times like this. I'm also happy they'll make mistakes, things won't pan out as anticipated, and it'll be rocky.
I'd like them to front it up, though. The problem is with the way they play it, is it's hard to tell which bits I *should* believe among it all!
The thing is, it's not even unreasonable to make mistakes, or more information to come to light to change the decision making. Take the 2m rule, I see that other countries have less than us, so I can be disposed to a change... if it's explained properly.Yep. I can handle mistakes. This is something that hasn't been seen for generations so it's largely uncharted territory. Mistakes will inevitably be made. If they said 'we've made some mistakes but we're learning from them to improve our response' I could give them more leeway. (Of course the issue with the care homes does make me suspect a more sinister motive and plan)
But I really can't stand is the constant lying and saying how great the response has been and blaming everyone else bar themselves for any mistakes. No wonder it's taking us longer to get the numbers down because there is absolutely no-one willing to take accountability for the choices made.
The problem is, in a general sense, that I'd like to think I'm reasonably disposed to following a government at times like this. I'm also happy they'll make mistakes, things won't pan out as anticipated, and it'll be rocky.
I'd like them to front it up, though. The problem is with the way they play it, is it's hard to tell which bits I *should* believe among it all!
From the SAGE report on the transmission of Covid-19:Yeah...
tbh I'd have been far happier to hear that they'd reduced it to 1m after considering medical evidence and other countries... not to hear keep it to 2m apart from when you want to make some cash!
best current evidence suggests that 1m carries between 2 and 10 times the risk of 2m of separation
countries that specify a separation distance below 2m generally mandate other mitigation measures, usually face masks or face coverings as a minimum
a calculation based on [3] suggests risk at 2m face-to-face is around 10 times lower than the risk at 1m
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ion_of_SARS-CoV-2_and_Mitigating_Measures.pdfthe risk of transmission at 2m separation is approximately half that at 1m
Good they have gone on too long
The thing is, it's not even unreasonable to make mistakes, or more information to come to light to change the decision making. Take the 2m rule, I see that other countries have less than us, so I can be disposed to a change... if it's explained properly.
As it is, it reads like Ian Duncan-Smith ended up running government after all.
What hasn't been mentioned much in among all this is all the shielded people are expected to go back to work. Now that seems a particularly odd decision to me. I can accept letting them out the house etc for their own sanity(!) but expecting them to be 1m away from people because it's not practicasl to sell more burgers otherwise...?
Repurposing other buildings is maybe not a bad idea, either. Not sure why they didn't at least consider that when it was proposed, seemed to fly under the radar.It's also ignoring the physical limitations of school buildings. If you want everybody in, you can't maintain any kind of distancing-just be honest about it.
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