Brighton Sky Blue
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They may wish to be reminded of which side of the sea legalised gay marriage first and which tends to be less socially conservative.
TBH from what I’m hearing from my own family yes brexit is a concern especially as my family mostly live in border towns and those that don’t work south of the border work in industries that rely on cross border trade but for the younger generation especially on the larger national scale they don’t want to be governed by dinosaurs and see the south as a beacon of hope in that respect.
I’m wondering why in a month I have to return to indoor work with over 1000 kids but I can’t wear one... I don’t even get the option.Why on earth is it compulsory to wear a mask in shops, but not for the shop workers? Not like they aren't coming into contact with people.
And why on earth can I go in a museum or library, and that is apparently OK without one?!? They're still indoors!
Given how far we are behind our next spike could be just as cold and flu season arrives againSpain looking like kicking off again and France over 1000 infections
Not good
It's late but isn't completely pointless, the virus is still circulating so it might help to avoid a catastrophic second spike. That said, pretty illogical really when pubs are open.I remember one of my friends in the Czech Republic telling me that she no longer had to wear a face mask, this was literally months ago.
Look at us just starting to do it. Interesting that some retailers say they won't enforce it.
We should have had this months ago along with shutting the borders. Bringing in masks now is like the quarantine thing they did. Absolutely pointless and far too late.
I think most people will do so but whether it will be enforced with people who don't, I'm not convinced. It was about 50/50 between people wearing masks and not in the supermarket today, although maybe it being the first day you can allow for people needing to get into the habit
Pretty illogical when it's only certain public spaces too. I understand that a face mask is a pointless thing if you're eating, but if I'm looking at a painting...?!?It's late but isn't completely pointless, the virus is still circulating so it might help to avoid a catastrophic second spike. That said, pretty illogical really when pubs are open.
Thing is, there's no real point unless everybody does it, who's able to do it. Otherwise you're just heroically protecting the people who can't be arsed from yourself, and they're still a risk to you!I think most people will do so but whether it will be enforced with people who don't, I'm not convinced. It was about 50/50 between people wearing masks and not in the supermarket today, although maybe it being the first day you can allow for people needing to get into the habit
I went to my local Aldi this morning and only saw one person without a maskI think most people will do so but whether it will be enforced with people who don't, I'm not convinced. It was about 50/50 between people wearing masks and not in the supermarket today, although maybe it being the first day you can allow for people needing to get into the habit
Thing is, there's no real point unless everybody does it, who's able to do it. Otherwise you're just heroically protecting the people who can't be arsed from yourself, and they're still a risk to you!
Sainsbury and Asda have said they won't be enforcing the facemask rule so that's two places to avoid.
Don't really get the people who are complaining because they don't know how long the rule will stay in place. As far as I'm concerned not really massively bothered if its permanent as long as the science backs that up. Asian counties have kept using them since the SARS outbreak and it doesn't seem to stop them doing anything.
Would be interesting to see if the numbers for things like colds and flu have dropped in those countries where mask wearing has become the norm in the last few years.
There are plenty of people who will remain like that until it directly affects them, but I think on the whole most people take it seriously.That's all you can do really, do your bit and just hope you avoid enough dickheads to steer clear of it. Even when it first started and arguably seemed a lot more terrifying, the amount of people you'd see not giving a single shit about it was depressing
Its an odd attitude. Don't really understand the whole 'you can't tell me what to do' thing. That's exactly what the laws of the land are for. Try going into the supermarket with no clothes on and I bet you wouldn't get very far.There are plenty of people who will remain like that until it directly affects them, but I think on the whole most people take it seriously.
I do have a certain sympathy with the argument that we've effectively been put under house arrest for a few months, and that's a dangerous precedent to give the state so much control.Its an odd attitude. Don't really understand the whole 'you can't tell me what to do' thing. That's exactly what the laws of the land are for. Try going into the supermarket with no clothes on and I bet you wouldn't get very far.
Thing is, there's no real point unless everybody does it, who's able to do it. Otherwise you're just heroically protecting the people who can't be arsed from yourself, and they're still a risk to you!
Boris Johnson says anti vaxxers are nuts.
For once I agree with him.
Johnson changed his mind and is ordering all civil service departments to escalate getting back into their offices. Knobhead
Mainly cos there’s no need to take the risk. But there’s also the optimism and positive thinking aren’t the answers in this. Science and risk management areNot really Pete, we need to try to get back to some kind of normality so why shouldn’t they go back to their offices ? It’s been ok for supermarket workers, NHS workers etc etc to work through the peak and be around vast numbers of people who might have covid but not ok for people to go back to offices (who are likely to be following various distancing/prevention measures) when current infection numbers are low ?
I’ve avoided the misery of this thread for a while as any bit of good news is usually like finding a needle in a haystack but thought Id post just to bring some perspective to the numbers, horrific as they are.
There are also a number of social, cultural and ethnic impacts on the numbers some of which are unlikely to impact a vast number of people
- Theres at least one pre existing health condition in over 90% of Covid deaths
- If you are obese you are three times more likely to die from covid and seven times more like to need a ventilator
- Up to 31 May, there were zero deaths in the age range 0-14 years where Covid was the underlying cause
- Out of every 100 people who die from Covid between 85-90 are over the age of 65
- Only around two out of every 100 deaths are under the age of 50
I’ll let far brighter people on here than me crunch the numbers any which way they want but we live in a population of say 70m, they reckon anywhere between 3m-6m have probably had Covid, yet only say 5k-6k of working age population have died from it, a vast majority of which have had at least one pre existing condition and/or were obese.
There will always be heart breaking anomalies, as there are with many unfair early deaths but people who want to stop the country getting back to some kind of normal need to take a reality check, by doing so, far more people will have their lives damaged/destroyed. If you are young and relatively healthy then the chances of you dying from Covid appear tiny.
Protect/shield the elderly and those most at risk, continue to take precautions (face makes in confined spaces) and wash your hands regularly but most really should just start living their lives again
...you won’t be surprised to hear I’ll be off down the boozer again later....just doing my bit ; )
Mainly cos there’s no need to take the risk. But there’s also the optimism and positive thinking aren’t the answers in this. Science and risk management are
If you are obese you are three times more likely to die from covid and seven times more like to need a ventilator
You see I was reasonably cheerful. Now I think if this is the good news, God help us!Out of every 100 people who die from Covid between 85-90 are over the age of 65
Not really Pete, we need to try to get back to some kind of normality so why shouldn’t they go back to their offices ? It’s been ok for supermarket workers, NHS workers etc etc to work through the peak and be around vast numbers of people who might have covid but not ok for people to go back to offices (who are likely to be following various distancing/prevention measures) when current infection numbers are low ?
I’ve avoided the misery of this thread for a while as any bit of good news is usually like finding a needle in a haystack but thought Id post just to bring some perspective to the numbers, horrific as they are.
There are also a number of social, cultural and ethnic impacts on the numbers some of which are unlikely to impact a vast number of people
- Theres at least one pre existing health condition in over 90% of Covid deaths
- If you are obese you are three times more likely to die from covid and seven times more like to need a ventilator
- Up to 31 May, there were zero deaths in the age range 0-14 years where Covid was the underlying cause
- Out of every 100 people who die from Covid between 85-90 are over the age of 65
- Only around two out of every 100 deaths are under the age of 50
I’ll let far brighter people on here than me crunch the numbers any which way they want but we live in a population of say 70m, they reckon anywhere between 3m-6m have probably had Covid, yet only say 5k-6k of working age population have died from it, a vast majority of which have had at least one pre existing condition and/or were obese.
There will always be heart breaking anomalies, as there are with many unfair early deaths but people who want to stop the country getting back to some kind of normal need to take a reality check, by doing so, far more people will have their lives damaged/destroyed. If you are young and relatively healthy then the chances of you dying from Covid appear tiny.
Protect/shield the elderly and those most at risk, continue to take precautions (face makes in confined spaces) and wash your hands regularly but most really should just start living their lives again
...you won’t be surprised to hear I’ll be off down the boozer again later....just doing my bit ; )
Not really Pete, we need to try to get back to some kind of normality so why shouldn’t they go back to their offices ? It’s been ok for supermarket workers, NHS workers etc etc to work through the peak and be around vast numbers of people who might have covid but not ok for people to go back to offices (who are likely to be following various distancing/prevention measures) when current infection numbers are low ?
I’ve avoided the misery of this thread for a while as any bit of good news is usually like finding a needle in a haystack but thought Id post just to bring some perspective to the numbers, horrific as they are.
There are also a number of social, cultural and ethnic impacts on the numbers some of which are unlikely to impact a vast number of people
- Theres at least one pre existing health condition in over 90% of Covid deaths
- If you are obese you are three times more likely to die from covid and seven times more like to need a ventilator
- Up to 31 May, there were zero deaths in the age range 0-14 years where Covid was the underlying cause
- Out of every 100 people who die from Covid between 85-90 are over the age of 65
- Only around two out of every 100 deaths are under the age of 50
I’ll let far brighter people on here than me crunch the numbers any which way they want but we live in a population of say 70m, they reckon anywhere between 3m-6m have probably had Covid, yet only say 5k-6k of working age population have died from it, a vast majority of which have had at least one pre existing condition and/or were obese.
There will always be heart breaking anomalies, as there are with many unfair early deaths but people who want to stop the country getting back to some kind of normal need to take a reality check, by doing so, far more people will have their lives damaged/destroyed. If you are young and relatively healthy then the chances of you dying from Covid appear tiny.
Protect/shield the elderly and those most at risk, continue to take precautions (face makes in confined spaces) and wash your hands regularly but most really should just start living their lives again
...you won’t be surprised to hear I’ll be off down the boozer again later....just doing my bit ; )
hence the numbers quoted. Look at the high streets, we’re taking about hundreds of thousands of jobs/livelihoods (directly/indirectly attached to retail, leisure and hospitality) that are currently at risk. There is a need and the risk is currently minimal.
if there’s a spike then of course additional steps need to be take again but currently more people need to be returning to work/offices and normality
But but but... You're not buying from Pret a Manger!What business is it of the governments if I want to continue working from home?
From what I saw all staff were wearing masks and 95% of the publicWere any of the staff wearing them?
My god, you're an intelligent person but your slavish towing of the Tory line is ridiculous. How is the 'need' to get back to 'normality' i.e. Thousands commuting rather than working from home for no productive reason greater than the need to protect public health?
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