Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (4 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Same again, the company I work for was struggling before the lockdown so just knew they wouldnt survive afterwards, I thought I wouldnt find it too hard to pick up agency work but this lockdown for over 50's idea is certainly worrying.

The flip side would be they can't tell people over 50 to lockdown without putting something similar to the furlough scheme in place or it will be ignored. Even those that wanted to wouldn't be able to stay at home indefinitely without any money coming in.

 

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[clint van damme]

The flip side would be they can't tell people over 50 to lockdown without putting something similar to the furlough scheme in place or it will be ignored. Even those that wanted to wouldn't be able to stay at home indefinitely without any money coming in.

to be honest I think it's a fairly unworkable idea unless they give people an online test they take themselves to assess their level of vulnerability, (I don't think GPs would be able to carry out the number of assessments required) but given what's gone on in the last few months and on-going uncertainty I think it could be enough to plant doubt into potential employers minds.
The other issue is if it did go ahead and you're already out of work what would they need to give you to stay at home as the furlough scheme was for working people only so potentially you can't look for a new job but aren't getting any compensation.

I'm fairly confident I'd pass the over 50s MOT but it still something that could cause issues for job seekers of a certain age.

 

[Ian1779]

something more at play here.


I agree, the government seem to be shitting it for some reason

I’d say they’ve lost control... but they’ve never had any.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Planning to possibly book a holiday at the end of the month but concerned it will get cancelled lol

 

[RegTheDonk]

The flip side would be they can't tell people over 50 to lockdown without putting something similar to the furlough scheme in place or it will be ignored. Even those that wanted to wouldn't be able to stay at home indefinitely without any money coming in.

Yes, I would hope this 50 thing isn't some flippent thought and there's some back up behind it as you say...othewise, should those that HAVE no choice but to carry on get it, you can be sure the life insurance companies will find a way to not pay up.

 

[wingy]

I really don't get the fuss. The mortality rate is minimal, loads more will die from flu this winter.

Not sure how you equate this?
Even if were as low as .5% mortality that's aound 5 times higher than for flu.
There may be a dearth of those in the demographic due to the previous clear out .

Edit:-
Sorry mate this was from way back

Due to way the thread loaded Lol.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Not sure how you equate this?
Even if were as low as .5% mortality that's aound 5 times higher than for flu.
There may be a dearth of those in the demographic due to the previous clear out .

Edit:-
Sorry mate this was from way back

Due to way the thread loaded Lol.

Yep, called it wrong.

 

[wingy]

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Personally I'm worried that the mean age is below 50. 50 seems an arbitrary cutoff point and not necessarily following the science.

Not sure how you equate this?
Even if were as low as .5% mortality that's aound 5 times higher than for flu.
There may be a dearth of those in the demographic due to the previous clear out .

Edit:-
Sorry mate this was from way back

Due to way the thread loaded Lol.

Harsh, dragging them back into the thread like that

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Not sure how you equate this?
Even if were as low as .5% mortality that's aound 5 times higher than for flu.
There may be a dearth of those in the demographic due to the previous clear out .

Edit:-
Sorry mate this was from way back

Due to way the thread loaded Lol.

I'm fearing that the winter may be a terrible one with higher mortality from flu and pneumonia in those that have survived Covid but have damaged lungs from it, thus less able to fight off such illnesses. So we may see a rise in deaths in which Covid may not be the cause but a major contributing factor.

 

[wingy]

Yep, called it wrong.

Genuinely as per my edit,no need to apologise.
Maybe you were right as per the vid from Germany yesterday.
It's just a hoax .

 

[wingy]

A cheap valid tool for prediction ahead of test data .
Regional by the look of it.
Very late to the party though

However whatever ,if this is fairly cheap simple science, should it not be regular practice for any relevant marker?
Know it can be used for drug usage etc.

Coronavirus: Sewage testing for Covid-19 begins in England - BBC News

Samples will be checked for signs of the virus, to get early warnings of spikes in infection levels.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[wingy]

I'm fearing that the winter may be a terrible one with higher mortality from flu and pneumonia in those that have survived Covid but have damaged lungs from it, thus less able to fight off such illnesses. So we may see a rise in deaths in which Covid may not be the cause but a major contributing factor.

Hopefully a decent accurate vaccine for this season will prevent that , with a widened uptake and expansion.

 

[chiefdave]

A positive story for a change. Drayton Manor has been saved. Was on the brink of collapse and obviously has been hit hard by being shut for months as covid hit right after they had sorted the damage from Storm Dennis which had forced them to shut.

Been taken over by Looping Group and all existing management and staff will be retained. They own 15 parks around Europe, including West Midlands Safari Park which they purchased in Jan 2019.

 

[wingy]

A positive story for a change. Drayton Manor has been saved. Was on the brink of collapse and obviously has been hit hard by being shut for months as covid hit right after they had sorted the damage from Storm Dennis which had forced them to shut.

Been taken over by Looping Group and all existing management and staff will be retained. They own 15 parks around Europe, including West Midlands Safari Park which they purchased in Jan 2019.

Are they based and operated out of Europe ?
Funded by Mubadala Capitol out of UAE.

 

[wingy]

Inconsistencies.
Just caught part of a feature on BBC news.
Leeds footfall down 40% , that doesn't sound too bad in the circumstances.
Local employers ,one office based recommending using the office 2-3 days per week
Wouldn't one visit pose as much risk as the whole week.
They did say that they'd take into account shielding of relatives childcare etc.
The other one was a music leisure manufacturer talking about all the measures around making it Safe .
Then the finishing shot was a bloke spray painting components apparently in an open area of the workshop not even wearing a sprayers mask FFS.

 

[Ian1779]

Finally some clear guidance from Boris...

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Yes, I would hope this 50 thing isn't some flippent thought and there's some back up behind it as you say...othewise, should those that HAVE no choice but to carry on get it, you can be sure the life insurance companies will find a way to not pay up.

....and there are an awful lot of over 50s who have elderly housebound parents who rely on them for everything. They may not be ready for the care home quite yet but this would cause a lot of problems if the idea of lockdown became a reality.

 

[skybluesam66]

its getting stupid
Deaths clearly falling across UK and Europe
Testing massively increasing
Much more positive tests - mostly A Symptomatic
Govt concludes we are getting out of control

No, the Virus is burning out , based on small number of deaths
Death rate has been below 5 year average since Mid june in UK and the whole of Europe is now at very low levels of death from Covid
Look at Spain, which is supposedly going through a second wave! Getting ridiculous

 

[chiefdave]

Finally some clear guidance from Boris...

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I'm going to have to check to be certain this is a piss take before I comment on it, getting hard to tell.

 

[Sick Boy]

its getting stupid
Deaths clearly falling across UK and Europe
Testing massively increasing
Much more positive tests - mostly A Symptomatic
Govt concludes we are getting out of control

No, the Virus is burning out , based on small number of deaths
Death rate has been below 5 year average since Mid june in UK and the whole of Europe is now at very low levels of death from Covid
Look at Spain, which is supposedly going through a second wave! Getting ridiculous

You’d have to be a moron to think it’s just going to burn out.

 

[Ian1779]

its getting stupid
Deaths clearly falling across UK and Europe
Testing massively increasing
Much more positive tests - mostly A Symptomatic
Govt concludes we are getting out of control

No, the Virus is burning out , based on small number of deaths
Death rate has been below 5 year average since Mid june in UK and the whole of Europe is now at very low levels of death from Covid
Look at Spain, which is supposedly going through a second wave! Getting ridiculous

 

[David O'Day]

You’d have to be a moron to think it’s just going to burn out.

Well we've caught ourselves a moron then

 

[Nick]

Ricoh Tesco has had an outbreak.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Ricoh Tesco has had an outbreak.

Got the story link?

Found it!

 

[Ian1779]

Their plan all along was to shift blame to the people for their sheer incompetence.

 

[shmmeee]

So, exactly how many office landlords are Tory donors then? So weird this obsession they have with everyone being in the office.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So, exactly how many office landlords are Tory donors then? So weird this obsession they have with everyone being in the office.

See, as it stands currently, we're being moved back to offices in a limited sense. mrs. Wisdom gets two days a week. Checking out trains and parking, it's all... OK atm, if honest.

if every bugger goes back, I'll be somewhat less sanguine!

 

[shmmeee]

See, as it stands currently, we're being moved back to offices in a limited sense. mrs. Wisdom gets two days a week. Checking out trains and parking, it's all... OK atm, if honest.

if every bugger goes back, I'll be somewhat less sanguine!

We’re talking about a hybrid model apparently. No idea how that’s supposed to work. Did you guys get consulted on which days or just told when you be in?

 

[Nick]

Wonder if we will get a local lockdown?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

We’re talking about a hybrid model apparently. No idea how that’s supposed to work. Did you guys get consulted on which days or just told when you be in?

Just told.

At my work I'm on the 'reserve list' for when needed to go in... probably because I kicked off about a couple of things I wasn't happy about!

Main issue is, they think I won't be needed for a while, I beg to differ - let's face it, whenever anybody comes down with the slightest temperature or cough, they'll have to go off sick.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

What do people think the chances are we go into another nationwide lockdown over the winter?

 

[shmmeee]

What do people think the chances are we go into another nationwide lockdown over the winter?

I think they’ll do everything to avoid that. Whether we’ll need one is another question.

 

[Sick Boy]

Been in Sicily for the last couple of weeks, if there’s not an outbreak here and across the south of Italy in general, I’ll be very surprised. Very, very different to the north.

 

[Nick]

What do people think the chances are we go into another nationwide lockdown over the winter?

Think it's a banker