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shmmeee

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What's even more annoying is that they've mainly downgraded schools in poorer areas whereas 'posher' schools haven't been. Yet if anyone's more likely to have fiddled the grades it's those schools where the parents have the ability to give the teachers the 'incentive' to do so.

And once again they were given warning of the outcome with how it went in Scotland.

There now not just privately against social mobility they're publicly trying to prevent it and couldn't give a fuck.

The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?
 

skybluetony176

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It’s all Corbyn’s fault

The Times not wanting to be outdone
 
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"Did Jeremy Corbyn's Marxist henchman Seumas Milne infect Boris Johnson AND Dominic Cummings with coronavirus during Downing Street visit?" is just a superb headline!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?

Ive been asking myself the same question. What have they done right? Even being incredibly generous I came up with the setting up of the Nightingale hospitals (even though they were never needed so you could argue that was a mistake although the way it is at the moment I expect them to be dismantled a couple of weeks before the next wave hits) and the furlough scheme, which could have been better but at least was something. And those are a small part of the pandemic which they've royally fucked up overall.

I can see the appeal of Johnson because he has character. Unfortunately that's all he is - a comedy character. But we live in the age of celebrity and personality so competence doesn't even matter. But then look beyond him and who've you got - Gove, Raab, Patel, Hancock, IDS, Grayling, Schapps, Truss. It's a shitshow. The only one who, despite being far from ideal, looked like they might have an ounce of competence was Rory Stewart and they fucked him off.

I'm not saying any of the other parties are particularly blessed with talent either but the level of incompetence in this government is bewildering. It's like they've tried to handpick the biggest bunch of charlatans they could (but with it being chosen basically on Brexit ideology and a pledge of allegiance to Johnson maybe it shouldn't be such a surprise).

They are the living embodiment of the Confuscious quote "the superior man knows what is right, the inferior man knows what will sell"
 

Sick Boy

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The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?
It’s always the fault of others and depressingly so many fall for it. Things are just getting more and more debased in general and they can get away with everything. They’re easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime and have little to no substance whatsoever.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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It’s always the fault of others and depressingly so many fall for it. Things are just getting more and more debased in general and they can get away with everything. They’re easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime and have little to no substance whatsoever.

I was thinking about ads for the next election and you could have an image of Johnson, Gove et al with a list all these things they've tried to push the blame on others. doctors and nurses, care home staff, teachers, health officials, the public and then the main tagline "Anyone but us"
 

Ian1779

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I was thinking about ads for the next election and you could have an image of Johnson, Gove et al with a list all these things they've tried to push the blame on others. doctors and nurses, care home staff, teachers, health officials, the public and then the main tagline "Anyone but us"
My mum will lap up every word of it. She literally believes the Mail verbatim
 

fernandopartridge

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Ian1779

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Maybe call out the pathetic track and trace, our failure to control the spread of the virus whilst we quarantine people returning from countries that have far better control than us. Do some actual opposing than churning out this shit which is just a powder-puff commentary piece I’d expect from some twat at the Guardian.

Twat
 
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Ian1779

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what does he want them to do? Parliament is in recess so all they can do is say how shit it is
Call for parliament to not be in recess during the worst crisis to face our country for a generation. At least when it’s refused it’s looks like he’s tried to do something.
 

David O'Day

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Call for parliament to not be in recess during the worst crisis to face our country for a generation. At least when it’s refused it’s looks like he’s tried to do something.

But that doesn't hurt the government as it's the speaker not them who would say no.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Cock really knows nothing and plays to his pig ignorant voter base. Tories designed PHE as part of the 2012 Lansley reforms, as usual there is no recognition that any malfunction is due to tory design

If Hancock is blaming PHE he's admitting it's his fault. It's his responsibility - they do what he and the govt tell them to do. It was the Tories that set this system up so if it doesn't work who's fault is it?

Yet another deflection of blame that idiots will lap up.
 

clint van damme

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If Hancock is blaming PHE he's admitting it's his fault. It's his responsibility - they do what he and the govt tell them to do. It was the Tories that set this system up so if it doesn't work who's fault is it?

Yet another deflection of blame that idiots will lap up.

Chain of command is Johnson at the top of the tree with Hancock next, yet somehow neither of them is responsible. It's quite incredible.
 

Ian1779

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So now the talk is about delaying the GCSE results on Thursday. Assume they wouldn’t do this unless they were considering a change.

EDIT: Apparently they are doing full u-turn now.
 
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skybluesam66

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if only we had a better choice at the last election than the 2 biggest buffoons in politics (Trump Excepted)
Boris only got in because of Corbyn

in normal times, he may have got away with being a Buffoon, but with Brexit and Covid he has proved totally incompetent

I am a floating voter, and not somebody who sticks to 1 party because that is what their grandparents did
Probably like many - a working class background, but now probably would be judged as middle class

However there is no way on earth I could vote Boris back in


Some countries have screwed the Covid response but saved the economy
Others have had a good Covid response but screwed the economy

We have managed to screw up both - whilst at the same time using it as a smokescreen for everything related to Brexit
 

Ian1779

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if only we had a better choice at the last election than the 2 biggest buffoons in politics (Trump Excepted)
Boris only got in because of Corbyn

in normal times, he may have got away with being a Buffoon, but with Brexit and Covid he has proved totally incompetent

I am a floating voter, and not somebody who sticks to 1 party because that is what their grandparents did
Probably like many - a working class background, but now probably would be judged as middle class

However there is no way on earth I could vote Boris back in


Some countries have screwed the Covid response but saved the economy
Others have had a good Covid response but screwed the economy

We have managed to screw up both - whilst at the same time using it as a smokescreen for everything related to Brexit


Boris got in because he honoured the referendum.
 

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