Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (10 Viewers)

shmmeee · Aug 16, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
What's even more annoying is that they've mainly downgraded schools in poorer areas whereas 'posher' schools haven't been. Yet if anyone's more likely to have fiddled the grades it's those schools where the parents have the ability to give the teachers the 'incentive' to do so.

And once again they were given warning of the outcome with how it went in Scotland.

There now not just privately against social mobility they're publicly trying to prevent it and couldn't give a fuck.

The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?

skybluetony176 · Aug 16, 2020

It’s all Corbyn’s fault

Did Corbyn's henchman Seumas Milne infect Boris Johnson with Covid?

On the evening of March 16 - during the last days of his party leadership - Mr Corbyn visited Mr Johnson at No 10 with his most senior adviser, former Guardian journalist Seumas Milne.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Times not wanting to be outdone

In Corbyn’s Britain we’d all get free candyfloss at Marx & Spencer

He’d have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids. “It’s not impossible,” claim Jeremy Corbyn and various former henchmen and coffee-getters, “that Jeremy Corbyn might now be in his third year as a Labour prime minister were it not for the unauthorised, unilateral action taken

www.thetimes.co.uk

ajsccfc · Aug 16, 2020

If the answer to that headline is no, my money's on Meghan Markle doing it somehow

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 16, 2020

"Did Jeremy Corbyn's Marxist henchman Seumas Milne infect Boris Johnson AND Dominic Cummings with coronavirus during Downing Street visit?" is just a superb headline!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 16, 2020

shmmeee said:
The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?

Ive been asking myself the same question. What have they done right? Even being incredibly generous I came up with the setting up of the Nightingale hospitals (even though they were never needed so you could argue that was a mistake although the way it is at the moment I expect them to be dismantled a couple of weeks before the next wave hits) and the furlough scheme, which could have been better but at least was something. And those are a small part of the pandemic which they've royally fucked up overall.

I can see the appeal of Johnson because he has character. Unfortunately that's all he is - a comedy character. But we live in the age of celebrity and personality so competence doesn't even matter. But then look beyond him and who've you got - Gove, Raab, Patel, Hancock, IDS, Grayling, Schapps, Truss. It's a shitshow. The only one who, despite being far from ideal, looked like they might have an ounce of competence was Rory Stewart and they fucked him off.

I'm not saying any of the other parties are particularly blessed with talent either but the level of incompetence in this government is bewildering. It's like they've tried to handpick the biggest bunch of charlatans they could (but with it being chosen basically on Brexit ideology and a pledge of allegiance to Johnson maybe it shouldn't be such a surprise).

They are the living embodiment of the Confuscious quote "the superior man knows what is right, the inferior man knows what will sell"

Sick Boy · Aug 16, 2020

shmmeee said:
The logic about cohort size is such bollocks. Like teachers of classes of 20 don’t know their kids inside out. It’s just punishing poor schools and popular subjects.

Has this government managed to do anything competently since it was formed? Serious question. Brexit: fucked it up by their own admission. Pandemic: fucked it both in health and economic terms. Exams: fucked it. Infrastructure spending: fucked it. Corruption: fucked it. HoL nominations: fucked it.

What are they even for? Are people seriously just supporting them to own the left at the point? I hated Thatcher Cameron and May but I could see their appeal. This bunch are too incompetent to manage brexit, too ideological and timid to “level up”.

What is the point of Boris Johnson?

It’s always the fault of others and depressingly so many fall for it. Things are just getting more and more debased in general and they can get away with everything. They’re easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime and have little to no substance whatsoever.

David O'Day · Aug 16, 2020

A-level results: 'Huge mess' as exams appeal guidance withdrawn

The criteria for "valid" mock exams is being reviewed by the regulator, hours after it published it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fucking shambles

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 16, 2020

Sick Boy said:
It’s always the fault of others and depressingly so many fall for it. Things are just getting more and more debased in general and they can get away with everything. They’re easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime and have little to no substance whatsoever.

I was thinking about ads for the next election and you could have an image of Johnson, Gove et al with a list all these things they've tried to push the blame on others. doctors and nurses, care home staff, teachers, health officials, the public and then the main tagline "Anyone but us"

Ian1779 · Aug 16, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I was thinking about ads for the next election and you could have an image of Johnson, Gove et al with a list all these things they've tried to push the blame on others. doctors and nurses, care home staff, teachers, health officials, the public and then the main tagline "Anyone but us"

My mum will lap up every word of it. She literally believes the Mail verbatim

SkyBlueDom26 · Aug 16, 2020

Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

Ian1779 · Aug 16, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

Starmer is fucking useless.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 16, 2020

Get INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

(Who cares about a pandemic after all, as long as your team's doing OK in a battle)

David O'Day · Aug 16, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

12 words and not even know what they mean

It's like you are having a go at that cut up poetry that bowie used to use for his lyrics

clint van damme · Aug 16, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

Sorry Boris, but I've found someone else

fernandopartridge · Aug 16, 2020

wingy said:
Coronavirus: Health Secretary to replace Public Health England with specialist pandemic unit, says report

Ministers are reportedly frustrated and unhappy with the way that PHE has responded to the coronavirus outbreak.

news.sky.com

Cock really knows nothing and plays to his pig ignorant voter base. Tories designed PHE as part of the 2012 Lansley reforms, as usual there is no recognition that any malfunction is due to tory design

Ian1779 · Aug 16, 2020

Maybe call out the pathetic track and trace, our failure to control the spread of the virus whilst we quarantine people returning from countries that have far better control than us. Do some actual opposing than churning out this shit which is just a powder-puff commentary piece I’d expect from some twat at the Guardian.

Twat

chiefdave · Aug 16, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

You mean well know Corbyn supporters like Alastair Campbell?

David O'Day · Aug 16, 2020

chiefdave said:
You mean well know Corbyn supporters like Alastair Campbell?

what does he want them to do? Parliament is in recess so all they can do is say how shit it is

Ian1779 · Aug 16, 2020

David O'Day said:
what does he want them to do? Parliament is in recess so all they can do is say how shit it is

Call for parliament to not be in recess during the worst crisis to face our country for a generation. At least when it’s refused it’s looks like he’s tried to do something.

skybluetony176 · Aug 16, 2020

Grendel · Aug 16, 2020

chiefdave said:
You mean well know Corbyn supporters like Alastair Campbell?

Campbell isn’t a Labour Party member is he?

David O'Day · Aug 16, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Call for parliament to not be in recess during the worst crisis to face our country for a generation. At least when it’s refused it’s looks like he’s tried to do something.

But that doesn't hurt the government as it's the speaker not them who would say no.

fernandopartridge · Aug 17, 2020

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 17, 2020

fernandopartridge said:

That’s not good

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 17, 2020

clint van damme · Aug 17, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
Joy

she gets blamed for everything

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 17, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Cock really knows nothing and plays to his pig ignorant voter base. Tories designed PHE as part of the 2012 Lansley reforms, as usual there is no recognition that any malfunction is due to tory design

If Hancock is blaming PHE he's admitting it's his fault. It's his responsibility - they do what he and the govt tell them to do. It was the Tories that set this system up so if it doesn't work who's fault is it?

Yet another deflection of blame that idiots will lap up.

clint van damme · Aug 17, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If Hancock is blaming PHE he's admitting it's his fault. It's his responsibility - they do what he and the govt tell them to do. It was the Tories that set this system up so if it doesn't work who's fault is it?

Yet another deflection of blame that idiots will lap up.

Chain of command is Johnson at the top of the tree with Hancock next, yet somehow neither of them is responsible. It's quite incredible.

Terry Gibson's perm · Aug 17, 2020

Although this situation is far from over the tories are now on the hunt for the people who are going to be thrown under the bus here as it sure as hell won’t be the fault of anybody in government

Ian1779 · Aug 17, 2020

So now the talk is about delaying the GCSE results on Thursday. Assume they wouldn’t do this unless they were considering a change.

EDIT: Apparently they are doing full u-turn now.

skybluetony176 · Aug 17, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Starmer has got all the Corbyn bellends rattled, love to see it

I’d be more worried about blue on blue if I was you. On PHE and the A level fiasco. Not even a year since the GE and the purge on anyone speaking out seems to have failed.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 17, 2020

UK government claims public health is failing, yet they're supposed to be in charge

Your latest public service announcement – UK Minister of Health, Matt Hancock, fails to blame himself for apparent failings of something he is in charge of. This is a bit rich, even for this current shower of a government.

www.linkedin.com

skybluetony176 · Aug 17, 2020

skybluesam66 · Aug 17, 2020

if only we had a better choice at the last election than the 2 biggest buffoons in politics (Trump Excepted)
Boris only got in because of Corbyn

in normal times, he may have got away with being a Buffoon, but with Brexit and Covid he has proved totally incompetent

I am a floating voter, and not somebody who sticks to 1 party because that is what their grandparents did
Probably like many - a working class background, but now probably would be judged as middle class

However there is no way on earth I could vote Boris back in

Some countries have screwed the Covid response but saved the economy
Others have had a good Covid response but screwed the economy

We have managed to screw up both - whilst at the same time using it as a smokescreen for everything related to Brexit

Ian1779 · Aug 17, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
if only we had a better choice at the last election than the 2 biggest buffoons in politics (Trump Excepted)
Boris only got in because of Corbyn

in normal times, he may have got away with being a Buffoon, but with Brexit and Covid he has proved totally incompetent

I am a floating voter, and not somebody who sticks to 1 party because that is what their grandparents did
Probably like many - a working class background, but now probably would be judged as middle class

However there is no way on earth I could vote Boris back in

Some countries have screwed the Covid response but saved the economy
Others have had a good Covid response but screwed the economy

We have managed to screw up both - whilst at the same time using it as a smokescreen for everything related to Brexit

Boris got in because he honoured the referendum.

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