This might be of interest.Im not saying it’s not increasing but it’s still a fraction of the population. I was just looking for the latest national sampling figures as that should give a reasonable indication, can’t see them at the moment and got some work to do. Will check
But isn't that because of the restrictions that have been in place? 41,628 deaths from 368,504 cases, that's more than 1 in 10 people who test positive dying. Are we really going back to the suggestion that we let it work its way through the population until we hit herd immunity?Understand. But the point remains the same Tony ie only a fraction of the population have got it. The sampling that’s carried out should provide a more accurate number
I think the actual case numbers are estimated anywhere around 3-4m. It will certainly not be anywhere near 10% death rate from the various studies around the world.But isn't that because of the restrictions that have been in place? 41,628 deaths from 368,504 cases, that's more than 1 in 10 people who test positive dying. Are we really going back to the suggestion that we let it work its way through the population until we hit herd immunity?
Buying 5 years worth of toilet paper in one shop is widespread panic. Being concerned about the number of cases rising is not a panic, being concerned that the spread is already breaking out of the young people demographic and finding its way back into care homes, which it is, is not a panic, it’s common sense.Understand. But the point remains the same Tony ie only a fraction of the population have got it. The sampling that’s carried out should provide a more accurate number
Edit - just trying to bring some perspective and stop widespread panic !!
But isn't that because of the restrictions that have been in place? 41,628 deaths from 368,504 cases, that's more than 1 in 10 people who test positive dying. Are we really going back to the suggestion that we let it work its way through the population until we hit herd immunity?
This of course illustrates the issue with not collecting enough data but lets go with 3.4m from the Imperial College recent study. Even if you take the bottom end figure for herd immunity to kick in at 60% you're still looking at half a million deaths. Now it may be the mortality rate changes if the most vulnerable caught it in the first wave but its a hell of a risk to take.I think the actual case numbers are estimated anywhere around 3-4m. It will certainly not be anywhere near 10% death rate from the various studies around the world.
You can't take lightly a rise in cases just because the death rate is relatively low. The death rate of course is a product of a healthcare system that is not overwhelmed. If cases rise to such a level that the healthcare system is overwhelmed then we really are screwed.
You can't take lightly a rise in cases just because the death rate is relatively low.
That's what happened in France but now the hospitalisations and deaths have started to rise there.
Didn't the 2nd waves in France and Spain start in the young and then spread to other parts of society?
Here's some more good news.
Imagine this life we have now for 4 years... Fuck that
Not entirely sure how it works. Presumably if the Cambridge University one comes off we're at the front of the queue. If its another vaccine that is the one we need are the pharma companies going to be dicks about who owns the rights or just let every country manufacture it themselves?Imagine this life we have now for 4 years... Fuck that
Imagine this life we have now for 4 years... Fuck that
I think alot of the population believe we will be vaccinated by next year... It's not going to go down well when they realise it could be upto 4 yearsThe FT story about vaccines was taking into account some of the large pre orders from Europe and the USA. I think it is just highlighting that those with the means to pay will get first service.
TBH I was never anticipating personally being able to get vaccinated in the next year or two, rightly the priority should be given to the highest risk. I think it'll end up like the flu vaccination programme. There might be commercially available vaccines for the rest.
Not entirely sure how it works. Presumably if the Cambridge University one comes off we're at the front of the queue. If its another vaccine that is the one we need are the pharma companies going to be dicks about who owns the rights or just let every country manufacture it themselves?
Couldn't read the story as the FT have it behind a paywall but I've found an Indian report which seems to come from the same interview. He works for the Serum Institute of India and seems to be suggesting that India doesn't have the infrastructure or manufacturing capacity to delver vaccines to 1.4bn people.The FT story about vaccines was taking into account some of the large pre orders from Europe and the USA. I think it is just highlighting that those with the means to pay will get first service.
TBH I was never anticipating personally being able to get vaccinated in the next year or two, rightly the priority should be given to the highest risk. I think it'll end up like the flu vaccination programme. There might be commercially available vaccines for the rest.
Seems to be making news now.
A national problem ffs
Is nobody 'in power' talking about this or has anybody been asked about it? Its a monumental fuckup even by our standards
Seems this is a country wide problem. How the hell is it not front page news?
All the hallmarks of a second wave and no one can get a test
Wife's just been told by GP to get tested.
On line booking system giving the m- the on live service is currently very busy, can't get through on the phone.
I've a feeling we're about to find out first hand what you've been talking about.
Good news about the exemption for grouse shooting though
That can’t come as a surprise really. People need to watch Contagion if things like this are really coming as a surprise.Here's some more good news.
Wife's just been told by GP to get tested.
On line booking system giving the m- the on live service is currently very busy, can't get through on the phone.
I've a feeling we're about to find out first hand what you've been talking about.
Good news about the exemption for grouse shooting though
A public health researcher said:So in lieu of all things pandemic, this new ‘rule of 6’ has come into play in England today. Groups of 6 or less. There are exceptions of course, which are underpinned by newly-released legal requirements. This new law explains what you can and cannot do.
And it is of course terribly straightforward! Let me explain - basically, what needs to happen is there needs to be a gathering, and you need to be part of a qualifying group to be able to join in that gathering. However, you must make sure that you do not become a member of any other qualifying group at the gathering, and you must not mingle (now a legal term, no mingling for you, citizens of England, okay?) with others at the gathering who are in other qualifying groups but who are also participating at the gathering.
These terms and conditions will depend a little bit on your type of gathering, so your qualifying group may be taking part in a significant event gathering, or a relevant outdoor activity (which is another name for a gathering), or a sports gathering (to name but three). Ultimately, as long as you don’t mingle and ensure your qualifying group is arranged appropriately at your gathering, then everything will be legally acceptable.
And in case you think I’m exaggerating for comic effect, I’m quoting directly from the legal infrastructure we are expected to understand and adhere to. Links in the comments. Also, note that the details of this new law were published 15 minutes before they came into force (i.e. 11:45pm last night). Another way in which this government has treated you in such contempt during this pandemic.
Infections well down but u wonder if there cause there’s no tests available
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