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We do record those stats?

yup, just dont get a publicised, daily running total, and which really isn't telling us anything as it lacks total context.
 

mark82

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Whys that? Curious not arguinf lol

I hope they do behind close doors to get us to end of season at least. But what if a player gets it. Then no games for 2 or 3 weeks and thats just 1 player on 1 team

It'll either be postponed (most likely) or called as it is with adjustment for games played. The latter could cause some legal issues. Any team in a promotion place would surely take legal action if they voided the season.
 

torchomatic

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It's got to be too far gone to void results, I just hope it's all resolved quicker than our crunch cup tie with St Mirren.

I went to the home tie. Still waiting for ticket details for the trip to Scotland. What's 33 years?
 

Philosoraptor

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I think the next Cobra meeting, which I believe is this afternoon, may have on its agenda limiting gatherings to under 500 people.
 

wingy

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They might fancy the closed doors option fully televised for the social well-being benefits.
Who knows even the FA PL may grow an altruistic backbone and dispense some succour to the denizens of the lower trenches.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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Yeah the desire for cheap meat drives this sort of thing, yet people get upeset about animal cruely but don't question why or how the meat they get is so cheap.

Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall tried to shed light on the cheap chicken issue. He had an entire series on Channel Four about ten years ago. He basically said that we should aim for a minimum priced chicken at £5 which would improve standards dramatically. The show featured footage of the terrible conditions chickens live in and alternatives to eating chicken so regularly.

Nothing changed but if Jamie Oliver makes a show about kids eating too much sugar there's a sugar tax introduced.

The bottom line is that the majority of people don't give a fuck about animal welfare.
 

shmmeee

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yup, just dont get a publicised, daily running total, and which really isn't telling us anything as it lacks total context.

This is a novel worldwide threat, I think all the data we can get our hands on is a good thing right now. The media report it because, as this 35 page thread shows, people are interested.
 

Liquid Gold

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We also forget the a fair portion of the Chinese palette developed in the mid 20th century when Mao introduced policies that completely destroyed the crops they ate and people had to do what they could to get by. I bet put in that situation we’d do the same. It doesn’t excuse them for some of the barbaric practices but again, we’re no saints.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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Decide matches by having a UFC style fight between managers. I reckon Robins would be great at the ground and pound.

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Winny the Bish

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Have to agree with this, as long as all loan agreements and contracts are extended as necessary.
Contract situation will be interesting. Most 2020 deals will expire on June 30th - so either the season will need to be sewn up by then or clubs will have to do monthly extensions.

Could see players' contracts end, sign for a new club, and then play the final games with the new team.
 

Ring Of Steel

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We also forget the a fair portion of the Chinese palette developed in the mid 20th century when Mao introduced policies that completely destroyed the crops they ate and people had to do what they could to get by. I bet put in that situation we’d do the same. It doesn’t excuse them for some of the barbaric practices but again, we’re no saints.
perfectly put
 

tisza

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We can go on about promotion and relegation issues but EFL clubs are going to lose around 20-25% of their home games income if they go behind closed doors. Could actually put a fair few into administration
 

covcity4life

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We can go on about promotion and relegation issues but EFL clubs are going to lose around 20-25% of their home games income if they go behind closed doors. Could actually put a fair few into administration
Dont efl have money to pump back in

Prem defo wud!
 

djr8369

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I live in Copenhagen, yesterday they took the step to partially shut down things (schools, Uni's, people told to work from home, etc). They have around the same situation in terms of numbers as the UK. I do not know why the UK seem to be so slow on the uptake and quite frankly why Cheltenham is going ahead is mental!

People can call it a media frenzy or whatever but if people just took action early then we'd all be back to it much much quicker!

I think it’s a case of putting of the economical hit which will only get worse the longer you leave it.

Government seems to have really dropped the ball, although numbers of people tested per million are about the highest in the west. Almost every case is tied to somebody returning from holiday in Italy, crazy. It was obvious travel to northern Italy needed to stopped weeks ago let alone letting those people in without testing!


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Ring Of Steel

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Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall tried to shed light on the cheap chicken issue. He had an entire series on Channel Four about ten years ago. He basically said that we should aim for a minimum priced chicken at £5 which would improve standards dramatically. The show featured footage of the terrible conditions chickens live in and alternatives to eating chicken so regularly.

Nothing changed but if Jamie Oliver makes a show about kids eating too much sugar there's a sugar tax introduced.

The bottom line is that the majority of people don't give a fuck about animal welfare.

Absolutely spot on- and yet we all bang on about the sick & disgusting activities elsewhere.
 
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Sturgeon now talking on the banning of games in Scotland - says that it's not expected to have a significant impact on delaying the virus - and not done for that reason - it's about conserving emergency services/other impacts.
 

djr8369

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Officials in China have declared that the peak of the country's outbreak is officially over.

Mi Feng, a spokesman for China's National Health Commission, said "the increase of new cases is falling".

Today there were just 15 new cases logged across the whole of China, and Hubei province - the epicentre of the virus - logged just eight new infections.

This is the first time the province has recorded a daily tally of fewer than 10 new cases.

Over the last seven days, the progress of coronavirus in the country has slowed markedly.

China has been enforcing strict measures on traffic and the movement of people in an attempt to stem the spread, including effectively putting Wuhan on lockdown.

As the virus has slowed, authorities have cautiously started easing restrictions and businesses have been reopening.

Earlier today, Hubei officials announced that travel restrictions would be further loosened.

Taken off BBC, will we take it as seriously as China though? Still very positive how they have manged to control it

Western countries already behind the curve. Left it too late already.


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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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My have alreadly been said on here sorry can't be bothered checking but last night 's Liverpool game there are more cases of infection and more deaths in Madrid than in all of the UK put together and yet that game went ahead. I find that strange.
 

djr8369

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Up to 100,000 people visit Meadowhall shopping centre (all indoors) daily. Will that be closed? I suspect not, whereas 7000 people sitting outside at St Andrews is too much of a risk. Doesn't seem to be much consistency.

At some point it almost certainly will be closed. Why are people not getting this?


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djr8369

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Having watched the video re: retention of germs on objects and hands, I do wonder about the plastic notes and the spread of germs on them. Said to my wife earlier that we ought to carry out all transactions by card (daft I know, but I suspect those notes pass stuff around!)

Never use cash unless it’s the only option. I don’t understand why anyone would, slower and inconvenient.


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theferret

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Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall tried to shed light on the cheap chicken issue. He had an entire series on Channel Four about ten years ago. He basically said that we should aim for a minimum priced chicken at £5 which would improve standards dramatically. The show featured footage of the terrible conditions chickens live in and alternatives to eating chicken so regularly.

Nothing changed but if Jamie Oliver makes a show about kids eating too much sugar there's a sugar tax introduced.

The bottom line is that the majority of people don't give a fuck about animal welfare.

People are so far removed from the entire process. Their nice clean chicken breast is all nicely packaged on the supermarket shelf and they don't begin to think how it got there. Chickens for £3.00, how the fuck? You incubate an egg, hatch it, rear that chicken, power the barns, pay the staff, buy the feed, feed it til it's plump, transport it to a slaughter house, slaughter it, transport it again to a processing plant, package it, transport it again to a supermarket and then sell it for £3.00, and presumably there is profit throughout the chain. The only way this is possible is by farming on an industrial scale and by placing welfare way down the list of priorities. It's all wrong really. We do have relatively high animal welfare standards, but clearly not nearly high enough.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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There's loads of footage on Twitter etc of Chinese people getting dragged out of their homes by men in protective gear and whole streets getting sprayed with disinfectant.

I think their approach was somewhat more "vigilant" than everyone elses. So maybe looking at their recovery rate is misleading.
 

Otis

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Never use cash unless it’s the only option. I don’t understand why anyone would, slower and inconvenient.


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Older generation. Don't forget about them. My dad ONLY uses cash. Never, ever used his card before. Only uses it to draw cash out.

There is a whole generation out there exactly the same.
 

djr8369

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Older generation. Don't forget about them. My dad ONLY uses cash. Never, ever used his card before. Only uses it to draw cash out.

There is a whole generation out there exactly the same.

I understand that, my grandparents were the same, even me Dad is, but there are plenty of people who are technically literate enough to not use cash, and even use contactless regularly, yet still use cash.

Plus, many older people could use contactless if they were shown. Many have iPads and use face time to speak to grandchildren etc. I understand people fear change and it can be difficult to get them try something new but technological change only gets quicker. Maybe as a society we need to support people better in that respect.

As originally pointed out cash carries germs so probably a good idea vulnerable people learn not to use it.


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tisza

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There's loads of footage on Twitter etc of Chinese people getting dragged out of their homes by men in protective gear and whole streets getting sprayed with disinfectant.

I think their approach was somewhat more "vigilant" than everyone elses. So maybe looking at their recovery rate is misleading.
Police enforcing the quarantine here in Hungary atm, Now a criminal offence not to self-quarantine or report if you have come from one of the banned countries.
Our neighbours , Slovakia, closed the borders today, banned all flights in and out apparently.
 

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