Grendel
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They could ration and distribute in isolated areas and close all supermarkets
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They could ration and distribute in isolated areas and close all supermarkets
tisza
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We're a week into a self-quarantine due to my wife's health issues putting her in a high risk category. Obviously I can get out to do the essentials but prison-fever is building. My businesses are very much site-based and people-based so much restricted by the current restrictions here.
It's a different ball-game from spending a weekend at home because you want to and spending large amount of time at home because you have to.
Married over 20 years with few major rows but after a week can feel one brewing.
Waking up to the realization of how much of my "downtime" (TV and Internet part) has revolved around live Sport.
Ring Of Steel
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whats with all the Caps Lock- save it for the graph later on
shmmeee
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It’s a great idea for a few months time when the logistics can be sorted but we are where we are. Ideally we’d have an army of home delivery people and tell everyone to fuck off but there just isn’t the capacity.
Nick
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Not moving the goalposts in the slightest. It has been my point all along about people queuing and cramming in.
The issue is that people have been too wrapped up in assuming that everybody going to a supermarket is just getting food for their survival and that people who go to the pub are murderers.
The government can ask you to go about buying food in a certain way so that there are no queues and to stop the spread risk from that.
Otis
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If the elderly and vulnerable are going to be isolated they will need deliveries so hopefully some form of distribution will be offered for them.
Ring Of Steel
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It wasn't really your point all along, it has become your point as people have pointed things out to you. You were on about going to the football and having a beer a couple of days ago.
Nick
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Pretty sure that shops can book hourly time slots so a certain number can go and shop. If your name isn't on the list you aren't coming in, not even to the car park. That way if a nurse is working today and tomorrow, she books 4-5 on Sunday and strolls in and gets what she needs (still being limited to per person things).
That way there is no overload, no queues, no pushing and shoving and it means staff can be restocking throughout the day.
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As I mentioned before though, there's also the concern how we pay for this support in the future. Does it have the knock-on effect of my job (non essential) becoming redundant as public services take a massive hit in 3-4 years' time? Do we then have to pay out in different areas?
What would be nice is to think it kind of reprogrammed a little, a bit like post WW2, so we started to think about society as a whole, rather than just individuals. I don't have much hope for that, though... and of course the post-WW2 debts brought this country nearly to its knees, too.
Nick
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It really has when I have mentioned supermarkets. I even included pictures and everything to make it easy to grasp.
Unfortunately the venue has closed so can't play football (I would have) but wouldn't have gone to the pub.
Ring Of Steel
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That would be the ideal, however unfortunately highly unlikely to happen.
I'm slightly more optimistic. It's funny, something like this really does shake up your world view and bring home just how precarious 'civilisation' is at any given time. I've always had quite libertarian tendencies, but recognise that they'll have to be a change (and there should be). It is probably a shake-up we needed, just a pity it has taken this to force it. I think the end result of all this is that the state will play a much bigger role in the next few years than it has at any point since WWII. Time will tell though.
clint van damme
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it may come to that! Could potentially be looking at 4 weeks off. Even I won't be able to put up with me for that long.
Ring Of Steel
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Brylowes
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So Health Secretary Matt Hancock is pleading with 65.000 retired NHS staff to come
Out of retirement with the rallying call “Your NHS Needs You”
:emoji_thinking: Well not being funny Matt but “Your NHS Needed You” for the last ten years and
If you as a Government hadn’t starved it of vital funds and overseen a program that
has Seen it shrink by 10.000 Doctors 40.000 Nurses and several thousand beds.
Maybe just maybe if you had done your jobs properly ‘and not let the NHS fall into
Such a state of decay and unbelievable staff shortages ‘we wouldn’t be in the mess
We are now ‘you absolute fucking weapon.
Out of retirement with the rallying call “Your NHS Needs You”
:emoji_thinking: Well not being funny Matt but “Your NHS Needed You” for the last ten years and
If you as a Government hadn’t starved it of vital funds and overseen a program that
has Seen it shrink by 10.000 Doctors 40.000 Nurses and several thousand beds.
Maybe just maybe if you had done your jobs properly ‘and not let the NHS fall into
Such a state of decay and unbelievable staff shortages ‘we wouldn’t be in the mess
We are now ‘you absolute fucking weapon.
clint van damme
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another halfway house policy causing problems.
Shut several tube stations but don't shut the whole tube so the trains that are running are mobbed.
Nick
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They should have cycled, ubered or driven.
Hope they are happy killing their grandparents.
better days
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My youngest daughter (who has asthma) has had the virus as has another daughter's husband
Both work in London and are in their 30's
It wasn't pleasant but both are starting to feel better and symptoms are going
Most people like them won't be in the official statistics as they phoned their doctors and were told to self-isolate and ride it out
Two points from this:
Both work in London and are in their 30's
It wasn't pleasant but both are starting to feel better and symptoms are going
Most people like them won't be in the official statistics as they phoned their doctors and were told to self-isolate and ride it out
Two points from this:
- The death rate is likely to be a much lower % than feared as lots of sufferers aren't tested
- Younger, relatively fit people can get through it even if they have respiratory problems
Nick
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Massively increasing the risk of infection.
Would have thought that would be the first to be closed, if people are able then give them a bike.
Nick
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Was she OK even with the asthma?
Another thing, if one daughter had it and another daughter's husband had it. Any questions being asked???
shmmeee
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They should have cycled, ubered or driven.
Hope they are happy killing their grandparents.
Nick
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Not really, they chose to get on the tube surely? Are the stations checking if every person in there is going to work?
Part of the problem here (alongside there being many unnecessary journeys) is that although tube passenger numbers are down massively, they've also closed lots of stations and reduced the number of trains, so those that are using it are forced onto a limited service, which completely defeats the object.
Brylowes
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Boris Bikes, he’s ahead of his time that mop haired little genius!!!
shmmeee
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Glad to hear it. Just to point out the death rate isn’t based purely on tested cases. If it was ours would be something like 50% at the moment (because most cases aren’t resolved yet) There’s some data from Wuhan showing it’s likely to be 0.5% ish when you take into account all cases. Which is low, but still five times seasonal flu.
Brylowes
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And he as our PM left the stations open.
Nick
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You don't need to tell me he's a useless prick, my view on politics is that they are all useless, out of touch, smarmy twats regardless of which party they are in.
Just to clarify where our collective moral compass is after the last few days so we're all on the same page;
Going to the pub: OK
Queuing at a supermarket: Bad
Stripping the NHS budget: OK
Criticising the Tories: Bad
Using a logarithmic scale: Get to the stocks you fucking heathen.
Going to the pub: OK
Queuing at a supermarket: Bad
Stripping the NHS budget: OK
Criticising the Tories: Bad
Using a logarithmic scale: Get to the stocks you fucking heathen.
clint van damme
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donated to this, maybe others may be interested
The best data we have probably comes from the Diamond Princess and South Korea (which had a massive testing programme). In both cases, it is a 1% mortality rate. However, all people affected in those two examples would have received the best medical care. The danger is that in a healthcare system that is overwhelmed and where ventilators are not available, that 1% can become 2% - and those numbers are frightening.
Ring Of Steel
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Johnnythespider
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Ok, so who's had all the meat, (i know it's not otis) tried to do the usual weekly shop in aldi, no fresh meat, tried asda no fresh meat. Gave up and came home.
shmmeee
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This may be shit advice but everyone keep saying “went to X large supermarket”. I’m hearing even the co-op is OK and smaller businesses are both less likely to be mobbed and more likely to need the business over the next few months so why not head to a local shopping area and hit the greengrocers etc?
That’s my plan tomorrow.
That’s my plan tomorrow.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Thanks Clint, decorate the house and when weather gets better do the garden I’ll end up with a show home