Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (20 Viewers)
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Skybluefaz
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When do we think Boris will anounce the third lockdown? Northern Ireland going back into a 6 week lockdown, how grim.
After the 5 day relaxation is my guess. Imagine announcing it now, any semblance of common sense over Xmas will go out the window for a sizeable minority.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I agree. Would need to be after the Christmas relaxation but before New year cos I think a lot of people would like to celebrate new year given how shitty this ones been. Probably going to ramp up the independence in Scotland for Sturgeon cos they're big on New Year, first footing and all that, so stopping it with a severe lockdown won't go down well. Mind you all the nations seem to be doing their own guidance now so Sturgeon may just do a relaxation for new year too, but I reckon she'd comply so she could blame it and any spike in cases on England.
Nick
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So school delayed in going back.
Another lockdown.
Rinse and repeat.
Will they let everybody in London do what the fuck they please and then blame a new strain?
What's the point in having Tiers to let everybody do whatever at Christmas and then into a lockdown? Haven't we been there before? None if it is making any sense, especially when you go in a shop and there's a fucking mothers meeting in there all stood around chatting. Supermarkets are rammed and so much I have seen is people stood about chatting with others.
Imagine this being people's lives from now on, suicide rates up much? Yeah I am lucky in that I still have a job but yeah, I can work all week and then what? Sit in the fucking house.
Another lockdown.
Rinse and repeat.
Will they let everybody in London do what the fuck they please and then blame a new strain?
What's the point in having Tiers to let everybody do whatever at Christmas and then into a lockdown? Haven't we been there before? None if it is making any sense, especially when you go in a shop and there's a fucking mothers meeting in there all stood around chatting. Supermarkets are rammed and so much I have seen is people stood about chatting with others.
Imagine this being people's lives from now on, suicide rates up much? Yeah I am lucky in that I still have a job but yeah, I can work all week and then what? Sit in the fucking house.
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What were poeples expectations at the start?
18months +?
We knew/know it was going to end in some form around then , although without the will or encouragement/.
leadership.
For eradication.
There are simply Two approaches available to deal with it,grim yes.
It was either let it rip,or intrduce the measures from the start (early)and maintain them throughout.
The fluctuating relaxations and regional disparities have developed confusion,privelifdge/envy, divisions.
And lack of tolerance, adherence.
For every argument made that it's impacting mental health, children's well-being,finance, there's a give it to me straight option to follow.
Most sane poeple Will live with/through those hardships for the benefit to the whole, it's the influencers who've grabbed control from late spring on.
Fine they don't mind admitting they'd be happy to encounter all the subsequent deaths and illness that would entail.
There will be a massive debate around euthenasia when this is passed, just be careful which age groups you fall either side of at any given juncture through your lives .
Ridiculous?
Not I've heard these conversations and opinions expressed currently.
18months +?
We knew/know it was going to end in some form around then , although without the will or encouragement/.
leadership.
For eradication.
There are simply Two approaches available to deal with it,grim yes.
It was either let it rip,or intrduce the measures from the start (early)and maintain them throughout.
The fluctuating relaxations and regional disparities have developed confusion,privelifdge/envy, divisions.
And lack of tolerance, adherence.
For every argument made that it's impacting mental health, children's well-being,finance, there's a give it to me straight option to follow.
Most sane poeple Will live with/through those hardships for the benefit to the whole, it's the influencers who've grabbed control from late spring on.
Fine they don't mind admitting they'd be happy to encounter all the subsequent deaths and illness that would entail.
There will be a massive debate around euthenasia when this is passed, just be careful which age groups you fall either side of at any given juncture through your lives .
Ridiculous?
Not I've heard these conversations and opinions expressed currently.
clint van damme
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considering most the country is tier 3 the amount of new cases is alarming.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...but considering studies have shown only 18% of people actually self-isolate when they should coupled with the fact that every man & his dog breaks or bends all the rules to suit, its no surprise either.
David O'Day
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It's almost like the government should of put a proper system of both support and enforcement in for those who have to isolate
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...its world beating
Oh stop it!
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
I didn't know that.
They actually rang my missus last week when she was isolating to see where she was though if she hadn't been at home she could have said she was and they'd have been none the wiser.
Ons seems to be estimating case's are approaching 600k, just over 1%of population.
Possibly still just lower than the first peak, by 100k. Mortality likely reduced by a third ISH upwards with novel treatments.
Suggests the NHS is really being sweated at this point.
Edit;- figures for the week.
Possibly still just lower than the first peak, by 100k. Mortality likely reduced by a third ISH upwards with novel treatments.
Suggests the NHS is really being sweated at this point.
Edit;- figures for the week.
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fernandopartridge
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chiefdave
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Would be laughable if the results of this total government incompetence wasn't huge numbers of people dying. Literally months of denial that schools had anything to do with transmission as more and more evidence came out they did. To the point they were threatening legal action against local authorities who took things into their own hands and told schools to shut.
See that SAGE have said the R number is back above 1 yet we're still having a week with loosened restrictions relying on people to use their common sense. Johnson has also said he won't rule out another national lockdown.
Think we all know what is coming after Christmas. Remember when it was being reported that SAGE had advised we'd need at least 5 days of lockdown for every day of lower restrictions over Christmas and, as usual, everyone else knew better.
chiefdave
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This is a interesting example of how it can spread, in this instance from an ice hockey team practice.
How one sports practice in Ottawa led to 89 COVID-19 cases and forced hundreds to self-isolate
One sports team practice in Ottawa this fall resulted in 89 cases of COVID-19, 445 high-risk contacts isolating and 10 sports teams forced to the sidelines.
ottawa.ctvnews.ca
David O'Day
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Something simple like only accepting landlines would make sure you are at home.
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Fine, as long as they buy me a phone to plug into my landline!
David O'Day
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Get on argos or get to the camp.
Simple, everyone has the ability to have one.
Skybluefaz
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Everyone would just forward to a mobile. Probably.
tisza
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Said it before here rates are way up and one of the 2 major differences from 1st wave has been the insistence on keeping schooling for the under 14s open.
One of the reasons schooling for the over 14s being stopped is that that age group are mainly schooled in larger towns and kids are housed in dormitories Monday to Friday before returning to the villages etc for the weekends hence increasing the risk of spreading COVID across the country.
Don't have one David, so I'm out
hill83
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Haven’t got a landline though. Had the cable removed when I got fibre installed.
David O'Day
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A miss selling action for the future I think ,when a free landline is anything but ,and built in Absorbed through the intetnet provision fees .
Legal eagle's get on it ,the thieves at Virgin deserve it.
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As long as I can get a round of golf in that'll do for me
Likewise.
David O'Day
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phone providers can stop that.
Anyway which is more expensive buying everyone a cheap house phone from Argos or the money wasted on an app that didn't really work?
*no i'm not in the pay of Big Argos
But what about that chip?
David O'Day
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Well do you want the top or bottom bunk in your cell?
David O'Day
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But what about that chip?
once bill has had his way with you you are fine to go
The dryest.
fernandopartridge
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The numbers are late today which usually means a big number, especially if they're estimating an increase in the R rate.