Where's the data
1000 cases against several hundred thousand in the same period?
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1000 cases against several hundred thousand in the same period?
I quoted the wrong post of yours just above.
He's up for an Oscar.
More theatrical than Redwood singing the Welsh national anthem.
Track and trace staff are in including the day and five others .
No overtime maybe a day off in Lue.
Only got the shift pattern yesterday .
Now I’m no fan of Hancock (he’s a prick) however I think there was a difference between the two comments. It sounds like he knew about the new strain over a week ago but they only found out about the issue of its significantly increased transmissibility (is that a word ?! looks weird when written) on Friday when Witty and Vallance had a call with government. Opens up another debate as to when the boffins knew about it (think signs are as early as Sept but they’re not going to have all data relating to it straight away) etc etc. To be fair, it just sounds like shit pre Xmas luck for us all...stick it on the pile !
tisza
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surely it takes some period of time to measure whether a variant is more / less contagious or dangerous or could impact vaccination effectiveness?
Exactly. That’s what I was trying to say (not very well obviously !) ie that they might see there’s a new strain/variant but you’re not going to have any info/data on how it differs etc for a while. Suppose it’s good news that the boffins spotted it really...even if it has fucked up a lot of people’s Christmas
fernandopartridge
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Yeah that's it, I usually have more than one holiday or break but nothing this year. Usually buy extra holiday on top of our basic allowance but missed the cut off so didn't for 2020.
It's just been many many days of the same thing. Now at the end of the year can't even go for a pint or even just a meal cooked by somebody else.
clint van damme
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Apparently samples were taken in September, tested in October and results were in.start of December
Well Tisza there has been no actual data published or released as of yet ,on something that was first noticed 3months back.
Just that as of Wednesday there had been 1000 case's.
Whatever it is is being spun .
Maybe as arse covering for past errors,or maybe a scare tactic of this indirect method we have of issuing protocols advice to follow, usually requiring a mind readers intuition to decipher just what the idiot's really mean or expect .
fernandopartridge
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They identified the new variant back in September
Nick
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Nah the Tudor Rose is shut down.
fernandopartridge
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The plan has worked, it's the new variant that's fucked up Christmas not the abysmal messaging of this government.
heard a professor from Imperial college discussing it yesterday, which reassured me that it wasn’t part of some weird conspiracy. I think other countries reactions and the latest case data also support this
clint van damme
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I've got to admit I'm sceptical.
The messaging was shit. I would’ve always managed expectations to say restrictions could change at any time etc etc but as mentioned above it appears the strain/variant is genuine and issues only became apparent recently
Ps Christmas was fucked in some way for most anyway, it’s the level of fucked that’s altered.
I was as well.
Nick
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Socks on?
Donnay ones are mine of choice.
Wilson when Wimbledon is on to get on the bandwagon.
Always think of that Hank's film when Wilson Wilson Wilson gets mentioned.
We'll_live_and_die
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Where is this info please?
clint van damme
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Saw it on my Twitter timeline earlier so no idea of it's accuracy just something sounds dodgy about the whole new strain thing to me.
edit - thought it might have been in the timeline of the Anthony Costello article but i couldn't find it but I did find this on a similar theme:
tisza
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New coronavirus variant: What do we know? lot here.
The scary part is the supposition of where it came from. That one person could be the source for all these infections
BackRoomRummermill
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the virus has mutated several times , they see this in the samples , this one was detected earlier and linked to an increasing number, this mutating bit scares me to be honest , this one which is more transmissible by 70 per cent will catch the people that skirt the rules , I can see whole families going down with it and the old ones suffering the most , now of all times obey the rules to save lives , if you don’t it will catch you out this time and stay off the pop
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Won't that always be the case though?
Yes which has resulted in 1000 + of those, case's,how many overall have occurred in the specific areas mentioned during this period exactly ?
Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said mostly. Assuming the %s Whitty gave yesterday are somewhere near accurate then this new strain will have accounted for around 4,000 cases in the capital a week in mid November at 28% and around 25,000 this week just finished at 60%. A 6 fold increase in around a month.
Ta it's just that Hancock used the 1000 figure in parlaiment on Wednesday,then it was said around 1100-1200 on yesterday's news
When you read through that there are many queries related to the transmission.
Yeah, still uncertain but guessing they’ve looked at likely higher transmission, the jump in cases over past few days, anticipated Christmas travel activity and modelling and decided they can’t risk it. Like some of the modelling though, a bit questionable as element of guess work (especially early stage info/data)
David O'Day
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35,928 new cases
Also why is everyone jumping on the 70% figure when the scientists behind said it is likely to be not correct as they didn't look at the pillar data?
The figure of 0.40 on to the rate is far more accurate.
Also why is everyone jumping on the 70% figure when the scientists behind said it is likely to be not correct as they didn't look at the pillar data?
The figure of 0.40 on to the rate is far more accurate.
BackRoomRummermill
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You think Hancock would drop that pink tie by now
Grendel
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He has to think really hard when asked a question as to his to answer. He reminds me of Percy in Blackadder 2
fernandopartridge
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Numerous countries now (temporarily) banning travel from the UK, including some haulage. That's this week, Brexit next. What an utter disaster.