I just wish the posters on here who are up in arms about this showed the same passion about the FOI results, the move to Northampton etc. Basically the real reasons for the decline of our fan base and club.
Oh and you don't another??? Your another hypocrite who comes on here bleating with the likes of torch etc but sits there and did nothing. Funny how you like to slag off the likes of the Trust but did nothing but cry on here.
Sorry but the ones who tried weren't good enough got slagged off for timing place etc but at least they tried....
Sorry Nick but you know it is true over to you now I'm sure you and your allies can do a better job.
Nick that was one protest what about the other 2 protests at the council house where were you all then?
Come off it Tony it has nothing to do with Sisu they Knew what they were doing????
Actually they achieved all they set out to do!
just waiting for the next round wonder how that will pan out.
It is idiots like you that have legitimised the farce of NOPM as a way of pretending to protest. No wonder there is apathy, it is apparently the thing to do to demonstrate you hate SISU.
Could be worse though, we could have got our leading fans group to spend plenty of time and tax payers money doing FOI requests just to prove somebody was lying when it was quite obvious to everybody what the outcome would be anyway, but they just wanted a stick to beat them with?
So you're happy that CCC have been caught out but don't want to run the risk of the same happening to SISU.
I wonder if SISU have made any enquiries about the site in Coventry that Nick Eastwood suggested could be a site for the new ground while also confirming that they can't turn a planning request just because SISU's name is on the application.
I'm sure that CCC and that hag Lucas know full well that CCFC would have snapped their hands off for the chance to purchase it for £5.54M.
You say "slagged off", is slagging off is "the time has changed with short notice and I am work" is slagging off then christ.
So as a Trust member you aren't allowed any input?
Talking of Hypocrites, how are your friends at the Trust? Still waving their wasps flags? Any more free tickets changed hands for the Wasps games (after leading trust people were on here going mental about freebies in Northampton and questioning things)? I may have "sat and did nothing" but I wasn't getting my face in the paper showing my anger at teams being moved and fixing football while asking for other fans to help us and then going to watch Wasps (who had been moved) and saying that I don't give a shit about their fans. I'd have a look closer to home if I were you.
You are on here having a go at city fans and saying they are sorry fans because they didnt go to a protest re arranged at short notice (that not many knew had been changed anyway) but if somebody says something about people making excuses about ticket prices or saying they will only go if we are top 6 then you are straight in there.
Does that mean sisu lying about a new stadium as part of negotiations and playing the poker game is ok?
Could be worse though, we could have got our leading fans group to spend plenty of time and tax payers money doing FOI requests just to prove somebody was lying when it was quite obvious to everybody what the outcome would be anyway, but they just wanted a stick to beat them with?
There is a difference nick.
I believe that City fans are no different to any other fans in the Country that have put up with this sort of shit for such a long time.
So yes they want good football they want reasonable prices, they want owners who care they only turn up on big occasions,
There are Club supporters and there are Club supporters some go through thick and thin and others pick and choose always been the way.
The thing is the fight was knocked out of us and then when things were put into motion to protest etc all they got was abuse off the same posters on here every time.
I wasn't having a go at you when I mentioned the wasps one I was replying to some one else who also never bothered to go to any of the protests but then questions where were the protests?
And funny if they hadn't have put in those requests the same posters would have wanted to know why so damned if you do damned if you don't.
could / would / will this effect the appeal on the court verdict ?
Couldn't agree more. "I disagree with the move to Northampton so much that I'm going to go anyway and watch it for free. That'll show 'em!"
To be honest, I never had a problem with the Hillers. Until now. The holier than thou attitude is galling.
Just waiting on the thread saying how proud they are of the Council for their actions...
Surely the fact that most people (probably 98%) could have predicted the outcome of the FOI's it says something doesn't it? Sometimes SISU are caught out the moment they put out a press release or statement so it wouldn't be anything new would it?
Nick Eastwood hasn't said anything about a site has he?
When the council stepped in to bail-out ACL to the tune of £14.4 million, the Council were absolutely clear that ACL was profitable, and that there was no risk to taxpayers' money. In fact the claim was that overall city taxpayers would benefit from the deal. I remember this quite clearly, because I supported the bail-out loud and long on here. I based that support on what was quite clearly a lie.
Similarly, when the club came back, and the council said that time was needed to rebuild trust before talking about the sale of the stadium, that too was a lie.
You reckon ? Wheres the evidence ?
Says something, proves nothing.
So unless you do someone like the FOI's how else are you supposed to prove otherwise?
Unless you don't want SISU calling on their continued front of "we've moved on and are building our own stadium" what's the problem?
Yes of course its okay for negotiations but it will piss off the fans until we know that's the plan.
When the council stepped in to bail-out ACL to the tune of £14.4 million, the Council were absolutely clear that ACL was profitable, and that there was no risk to taxpayers' money. In fact the claim was that overall city taxpayers would benefit from the deal. I remember this quite clearly, because I supported the bail-out loud and long on here. I based that support on what was quite clearly a lie.
TOP post and then begs the question , were all the councillors who voted for this deal told the facts or ann lucas versionIt's generally counter-productive to lie in negotiations I'd say, unless you're happy to take the risk that the other side will walk away completely if you're found out. You can negotiate pretty strongly without the need to lie, if you think about it. And as far as I'm aware, you can't just lie about how profitable your company is if you're trying to sell or refinance it either.
Regardless, the lies that Lucas told here regarding the profitability of ACL were to the electorate and possibly to the elected members, and at least in part in order to get their support for the bail-out. That to me, as a citizen of Coventry, is not acceptable in any way.
What's the story?
There's no problem with calling SISU out but Fisher claiming they're building a new stadium and everyone laughing at him is a million miles away from what CCC have done.
Is it? Is it really? How?
You can be as angry as you like about this but at least she's got grace enough to put her hands up when she's been caught out. That's more than you can say about SISU. They just keep going with the same line. In my eyes that's even worse. They think we're stupid enough to keep buying that line otherwise why would they keep regurgitating it?
Because they probably saw people fall for the lines from the council and thought they would have to try it?
They think we're stupid enough to keep buying that line otherwise why would they keep regurgitating it?
Quite possibly the stupidest justification for SISU's actions you've ever come up with and there's been a few. If you ever get called a SISU apologists again you've lost all right to reply with that one. Well done.
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