Referring to CCFC - see first sentence. Don't get paranoid. Or are you criticising my English?
They, they, they?
Referring to CCFC - see first sentence. Don't get paranoid. Or are you criticising my English?
Referring to CCFC - see first sentence. Don't get paranoid. Or are you criticising my English?
had you been refering to the Council/ACL as 'They' it would not have even been thought about.
What's clear is that CCFC paid more rates than they should have, according to the VOA.
It isn't necessarily the case that ACL will have to pay those additional rates, because the article suggests that they'll appeal too. It certainly isn't the case that ACL ripped-off CCFC here either, as far as the evidence suggests. As for 2005, the VOA site seems to suggest that you can't appeal that far back, but who knows what SISU can achieve in court. Of course, if they can appeal this far back successfully then it follows that ACL could follow the same path too.
I sense that you're happy that ACL have a big bill to find, potentially. Fair enough. Personally, I'm neutral about it - businesses have to pay their dues, rates, taxes, rent etc. (or at least most seem to).
Obviously the £590k that Otium will have to pay ACL will take the sting out of it somewhat, assuming they get paid.
all a bit of a mess isn't it. It could get even messier.
If ACL are appealing and get a reduction of the rateable value then that means the basis of the calculation for the refund to CCFC is going to be wrong again. CCFC could find themselves facing a demand to repay part of the refund they have just received.
Can ACL appeal the apportionment? It would be usual for tenant and landlord to work together in terms of this I would have thought because the outcome affects both. Given the circumstances at the Arena anyone prepared to bet that they have co operated?
If CCFC were successful in going back 8 years surely ACL would have the same grounds to do so? So is it all bad news for ACL? If they are successful in getting a rates reduction that mitigates the effect of the additional charge doesn't it? As ever nothing at CCFC or the Ricoh is clear cut and straight forward
Am glad CCFC got a rebate, would be even more pleased if it had been all applied to the squad since January, and even more pleased if they can all cut out the snide remarks, sit down negotiate and bring our team home
Just one thing after another
I know. Surely, it's "we"?
That's if the CCFC portion is conversely increased on appeal.
its really quite simple mrdimbluesky
we=ccfc
them=council or sisu
get it? got it? good.
not necessarily. The CCFC appeal was as I understand it based on the split of the rates between CCFC and ACL. If ACL succeed in getting a reduction in the overall rateable value then the calculations have to be redone. The split can be exactly the same but if the RV goes down then Otium will need to repay some of the refund
When talking about football ( I know it doesn't happen much nowadays ) I refer to CCFC as "we". "We" being team and fans. When referring to a rates rebate which I won't be getting, I tend to stick to "they". I won't refer to, say, the council winning the JR as "we" in "we won the JR".
Am I getting a share of a rates rebate? Super.
Now, but "your" club is. For me anything to do with Coventry City is "we". My team Coventry City is getting a rebate, so it's "we". My team are selling a player so "we" will get a fee - not me personally mind, I won't have a slice. Obviously, not for you. Fair enough.
Now, but "your" club is. For me anything to do with Coventry City is "we". My team Coventry City is getting a rebate, so it's "we". My team are selling a player so "we" will get a fee - not me personally mind, I won't have a slice. Obviously, not for you. Fair enough.
I've never known an appeal to be appealed back again. It's been heard once. Next stage is Valuation Tribunal I think.
Now, but "your" club is. For me anything to do with Coventry City is "we". My team Coventry City is getting a rebate, so it's "we". My team are selling a player so "we" will get a fee - not me personally mind, I won't have a slice. Obviously, not for you. Fair enough.
he doesnt unserstand torch, he joined this forum to talka bout council vs sisu not the football club.
if we ever come out of this as a club you can guarantee the council lover posters will never log on again. it will be boring to them then.
It does make me wonder how wound up some people get because the club haven't paid that rent money yet. It is as if Tim Fisher has personally been to their hours, punched their gran and shat on their kitchen table the way some people go on.
It does make me wonder how wound up some people get because the club haven't paid that rent money yet. It is as if Tim Fisher has personally been to their hours, punched their gran and shat on their kitchen table the way some people go on.
It does make me wonder how wound up some people get because the club haven't paid that rent money yet. It is as if Tim Fisher has personally been to their hours, punched their gran and shat on their kitchen table the way some people go on.
I thought we were on a rates rebate thread, not a why haven't SISU paid yet? thread.
That comes only if they don't pay by the end of the month and the football club, sorry we, are in danger of getting some form of punishment because of our owners.
But where are the money sitting atm? The money owed to ACL were part of the £1.5m Otium paid for the assets of ltd.
I would think the money is in an escrow at Mr Appelton awaiting the final liquidation of ltd.
Please provide evidence to support this statement.
Or us this just more pathetic bullshit and lies? No doubt the accountant had to pass a fitness test. Lol.
But where are the money sitting atm? The money owed to ACL were part of the £1.5m Otium paid for the assets of ltd.
I would think the money is in an escrow at Mr Appelton awaiting the final liquidation of ltd.
Hi Godiva - I think this is separate to that. It wasn't money that came out of the administration as such, this is money that the FL have ordered Otium to pay as part of handing over the golden share to them. This is the sum of money ACL would've been paid had they agreed to the CVA, if I remember correctly.
As such, I'm not even sure this is a legally enforceable debt. In other words I don't think ACL could go to court for it. However, the FL could revoke the right to play in the league ultimately I suppose, if unpaid. Once the fixtures are out though, they won't do that, obviously.
Good, sisu apologists like you and Grendel do spout a load of rubbish!
It does make me wonder how wound up some people get because the club haven't paid that rent money yet. It is as if Tim Fisher has personally been to their hours, punched their gran and shat on their kitchen table the way some people go on.
No him and his cronies came to my club punched it, kicked it,fucked it and then shat on it!
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