Course invaders at today's Grand National. (3 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

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[Boosh]

Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

Baffling logic.

 

[JAM See]

I actually find it quite cathartic to find out a horse that's lost me money has been destroyed. I'd like to extend it to others that let my bets down like football teams and Boxers.

I did the National Lottery for years.

Wished the same for Mystic Meg.

I feel really bad now.

 

[David O'Day]

The trainer who is trying to blame the fact that his horse died trying to jump a fucking massive fence they are meant to jump is a plum on some people who weren't on the course anymore is a prize plum

 

[greys4life]

Have they got a valid point? I stopped going to the dogs years ago (only ever an occasional visitor on social occasions) when I learned about the shocking mistreatment of the dogs that just weren't up to it.

The dog industry is even worse!

 

[greys4life]

The horses are imprisoned 23 hours a day and treated like shite then when useless to the owner shot dead

As horrible as it sounds for many a greyhound a bullet would be gratefully accepted - both industries should be banned.

 

[skybluetony176]

Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s the world we live in. It’s always someone else’s fault and if that someone else is deemed “woke” in some way it’s a two for one.

 

[ccfctommy]

As horrible as it sounds for many a greyhound a bullet would be gratefully accepted - both industries should be banned.

Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

They can live happily ever after

 

[Grendel]

Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

They race an average if 2-3 years. What happens then anyway?

 

[bawtryneal]

I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

 

[ccfctommy]

They race an average if 2-3 years. What happens then anyway?

They get top glass care and medical attention. If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

It's a pretty expensive business looking after a racehorse.

 

[ovduk78]

I wonder what the life expectancy is of a retired racehorse. I doubt if it's as long as a normal horse. I would think the owners move them on to other owners, sanctuaries, retirement places, etc as soon as they can as it's an expense they don't want.

 

[David O'Day]

I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

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Why do horses keep running when the rider falls off?


French equine behaviorist Dr. Lea Lansade says that the process which causes race horses to keep running after losing their jockey is called automatism. As described by TheHorse.com, “automatism is the curious brain function that makes us perform actions without even realizing it.”"

 

[Grendel]

I wonder what the life expectancy is of a retired racehorse. I doubt if it's as long as a normal horse. I would think the owners move them on to other owners, sanctuaries, retirement places, etc as soon as they can as it's an expense they don't want.

This is an Australian article but it’s similar here

Life of a Racehorse - Horse Racing Kills

Life of a Racehorse Introduction Beneath its glamorous façade, commercial horseracing is a ruthless industry motivated by financial gain and prestige. What is concealed from the television-viewing punter and champagne-sipping patron are the unremitting challenges the racehorse is forced to...

horseracingkills.com

 

[Grendel]

I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

Horses are herd animals - fight or fight and they run.

If Aintree was empty and horses riderless they’d just eat the grass. Fire a gun and they will start to run and follow

 

[Otis]

Baffling logic.

No, that ran in the 3:30 at Kempton Park instead.

 

[clint van damme]

If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

Is that what you want? 'Cause thats what'll 'appen!

 

[ovduk78]

This is an Australian article but it’s similar here

Life of a Racehorse - Horse Racing Kills

Life of a Racehorse Introduction Beneath its glamorous façade, commercial horseracing is a ruthless industry motivated by financial gain and prestige. What is concealed from the television-viewing punter and champagne-sipping patron are the unremitting challenges the racehorse is forced to...

horseracingkills.com

So when they claim that the welfare of the horses is their no 1 priority they only mean whilst it has the potential to earn them some money, once that day has passed they couldn't give a shit!!!

 

[SBT]

I’ve long been an advocate for letting horses compete in a quieter, slower environment where they’re not likely to encounter protesters, which is why I’ve been campaigning to let horses play snooker.

 

[Otis]

I’ve long been an advocate for letting horses compete in a quieter, slower environment where they’re not likely to encounter protesters, which is why I’ve been campaigning to let horses play snooker.

Well it makes sense, as we already have dogs playing pool.

 

[JAM See]

Well it makes sense, as we already have dogs playing pool.

Which is weird, because dogs are colourblind.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They get top glass care and medical attention. If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

It's a pretty expensive business looking after a racehorse.

At least they are only whipped a fixed number of times a race

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Which is weird, because dogs are colourblind.

I said to my daughter the other day that dogs only see in black &white and got a lecture.
Apparently..... Dogs do not see in black and white. They have two colour receptors in the eyes (humans have 3) which perceive wavelengths of light that correspond to blue and yellow, meaning that dogs see only in combinations of blue, yellow and grey.
Yes they would still f***** struggle at snooker though!

 

[JAM See]

I said to my daughter the other day that dogs only see in black &white and got a lecture.
Apparently..... Dogs do not see in black and white. They have two colour receptors in the eyes (humans have 3) which perceive wavelengths of light that correspond to blue and yellow, meaning that dogs see only in combinations of blue, yellow and grey.
Yes they would still f***** struggle at snooker though!

Ha ha. It's great being lectured by your kids on sciencey stuff. Proves that you did something right somewhere along the way.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Good to see the BBC presenting a balanced coverage on this

Grand National 2023: Trainer Sandy Thomson on the death of horse Hill Sixteen

Trainer Sandy Thomson tells Tom English of his grief at the death of horse Hill Sixteen during Saturday's Grand National.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Good to see the BBC presenting a balanced coverage on this

Grand National 2023: Trainer Sandy Thomson on the death of horse Hill Sixteen

Trainer Sandy Thomson tells Tom English of his grief at the death of horse Hill Sixteen during Saturday's Grand National.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why's he saying sorry if it's all the fault of the protestors? Surely he should have been at his side swearing he'd avenge him.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why's he saying sorry if it's all the fault of the protestors? Surely he should have been at his side swearing he'd avenge him.

If he thought the horse was distressed, why let it race?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is that what you want? 'Cause thats what'll 'appen!

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Brilliant