Grendel
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And who knows - as we are the City of Rugby - perhaps they can be Wasps partner at the Ricoh
Make a lot of people happy on here
I understand if your not interested in Rugby League but its hardly a non-event is it?
League looking to expand and not a bad place to start.
If Coventry does get a game, try it, you may enjoy it. Much better game than Union (in my humble opinion).
If Coventry does get a game, try it, you may enjoy it. Much better game than Union (in my humble opinion).
Meant a 4 nations gameHaven't Coventry had games for a while?
I have asked you already
How is it promoting the City? Who is it promoting the City to exactly and for what purpose?
And who knows - as we are the City of Rugby - perhaps they can be Wasps partner at the Ricoh
Make a lot of people happy on here
I have asked you already
How is it promoting the City? Who is it promoting the City to exactly and for what purpose?
Any reply to this?
So CCC, Coventry & Warwickshire Chamber of Commerce (presumably you think Sandra Garlic is a double agent), Coventry University and the University of Warwick are all part of some conspiracy to "push the football club into the sidelines"? Really?
Even if you can just confirm if Sandra Garlic is a double agent or not will be enough for me
What does garlic do at the commerce?
And who knows - as we are the City of Rugby - perhaps they can be Wasps partner at the Ricoh
Make a lot of people happy on here
You see, I don't see why you have issue with this. Wasps aside isn't part of a councils remit to promote the City and isn't that exactly what they're doing? Surely that's not something that they should be criticised for?
You might not have an interest in Rugby league or Union but plenty in the country are and the list of people involved in this goes well beyond the city
The City of Rugby Steering Group is a formal collaboration between the Rugby Football Union (RFU), Rugby Football League (RFL), Engage! Coventry, Coventry Sports Network, Coventry Rugby, Wasps, Coventry Bears, Warwickshire RFU, Premiership Rugby, Coventry Sports Foundation, Coventry Sports Trust, Coventry City Council, University of Warwick, Coventry University, C&W Chamber of Commerce, Coventry Schools Union and the Millerchip Family Fund.
Can't see how CCC have marginalised the football club, I think that's down to the clubs management over many years and accelerated the downfall by Sisu playing silly buggers.
Don't think you could be looking very hard. Off the top of my head:
- Refused to assist the club with expansion / redevelopment of HR leading to the need for a new stadium (I'm going off information from others on this as I was out of the country a lot of the time this was going on)
- Expand where ?
- Went back on agreement for CCFC to have 50% of Arena Park freehold
- First I'd heard about it. Think your getting mixed up with 50% of ACL. We didn't take up the option for the whole lot and CCC picked it up.
- As part owners of ACL set an extortionately high rent that crippled the club
- The club had a choice to have a rolling scale or a fixed rent.
- When KMPG were tasked with selling the club CCC refused to engage with any potential buyer who wanted a share in stadium ownership
- I'll take your word on that one.
- Sold the stadium in secret to a rugby club from London
- The only buyer after many years of being available to the club.
- Heavy promotion of Wasps on council websites, little mention of CCFC
- Little to promote really
- Are relocating the 50m pool to the Higgs Centre with the potential loss of CCFC academy
- I think CCC just closed it on cost/maintenance reasoning. I do't think they are financing a relocation just rubber stamping it. Academy affect who knows.
- Are currently involved in a campaign to promote rugby, have had little or no involvement in similar campaigns for football run by CCFC and Sky Blues in the Community.
- Coventry ? Centre of excellence for football ? Really ?
Thats a very naive view Tony. You've said yourself in this thread there is a lot of interest in rugby, its hardly a marginalised sport that people have no awareness of. It also isn't a sport, compared to something like ice hockey, that is expensive to get involved in and needs specialist equipment or venues. As with football those interested can get a ball and off they go. I dont think expecting a local authority amongst others to promote their City is Naive at all. I would say it's expected.
I do not for a second believe that it is coincidental that as Wasps were being parachuted into the city a public body, Engage Coventry, was setup to promote the sport. Cant say I know the first thing about Engage Coventry so I'll have to take your word for it.
If the council want to promote sport and a healthy lifestyle why concentrate on one sport? What are CCFC doing to work with CCC, C & W CofC, Coventry Uni, University of Warwick, Coventry Schools Union and various non-profit partners with, and in some cases are funded by, the council? It works both ways you know? Nothing stopping the club working in conjunction with all these bodies along with Sphinx and over Coventry based football teams to promote football as a sport and healthy lifestyle.
Above all else its embarrassing. While Wasps may have been welcomed with open arms in the city the move is looked upon by many outside the city in a similar light to Wimbledon's move to Milton Keynes. You can imagine the reaction if just a few months after that move Milton Keynes had self proclaimed that it was the city of football. I think the only thing Milton Keynes proclaim itself as is the City of Concrete Cows but I take your point. Aren't other Coventry based Rugby teams also involved in this including CRFC and Coventry Bears? It seems some posters on here think its all the doing of Wasps and CCC conveniently ignoring all the other bodies on the list of backers. It not a list of 2 you know?
Clearly rugby clubs and authorities have a vested interest in promoting the sport so would be certain to sign up to a scheme like this. If you then look at the remaining partners you have the 2 further education establishments and then various non-profits who partner with, and in some cases are funded by, the council. Its hard to imagine it is coincidence. As well as Coventry & Warwickshire Chamber of Commerce, as well as Coventry Schools Union and unless I'm mistaken Country RFC are also involved arent they? Are you seriously suggesting that all these bodies are in an ellaborite conspiracy to push the football club into the sidelines? A simple yes or no will do. Like I just said the people behind this isn't just a list of 2.
Refused to assist the club with expansion / redevelopment of HR leading to the need for a new stadium (I'm going off information from others on this as I was out of the country a lot of the time this was going on)
Expand where ?
Went back on agreement for CCFC to have 50% of Arena Park freehold
First I'd heard about it. Think your getting mixed up with 50% of ACL. We didn't take up the option for the whole lot and CCC picked it up.
As part owners of ACL set an extortionately high rent that crippled the club
The club had a choice to have a rolling scale or a fixed rent.
When KMPG were tasked with selling the club CCC refused to engage with any potential buyer who wanted a share in stadium ownership
I'll take your word on that one.
Sold the stadium in secret to a rugby club from London
The only buyer after many years of being available to the club.
Heavy promotion of Wasps on council websites, little mention of CCFC
Little to promote really
Are relocating the 50m pool to the Higgs Centre with the potential loss of CCFC academy
I think CCC just closed it on cost/maintenance reasoning. I do't think they are financing a relocation just rubber stamping it. Academy affect who knows.
Are currently involved in a campaign to promote rugby, have had little or no involvement in similar campaigns for football run by CCFC and Sky Blues in the Community.
Coventry ? Centre of excellence for football ? Really ?
The post is as bias as it gets. You really need to accept that there is nothing we can do about it and move on.
skybluetony176 said:I dont think expecting a local authority amongst others to promote their City is Naive at all. I would say it's expected.
skybluetony176 said:Cant say I know the first thing about Engage Coventry so I'll have to take your word for it.
skybluetony176 said:What are CCFC doing to work with CCC, C & W CofC, Coventry Uni, University of Warwick, Coventry Schools Union and various non-profit partners with, and in some cases are funded by, the council? It works both ways you know? Nothing stopping the club working in conjunction with all these bodies along with Sphinx and over Coventry based football teams to promote football as a sport and healthy lifestyle.
skybluetony176 said:I think the only thing Milton Keynes proclaim itself as is the City of Concrete Cows but I take your point. Aren't other Coventry based Rugby teams also involved in this including CRFC and Coventry Bears? It seems some posters on here think its all the doing of Wasps and CCC conveniently ignoring all the other bodies on the list of backers. It not a list of 2 you know?
skybluetony176 said:As well as Coventry & Warwickshire Chamber of Commerce, as well as Coventry Schools Union and unless I'm mistaken Country RFC are also involved arent they? Are you seriously suggesting that all these bodies are in an ellaborite conspiracy to push the football club into the sidelines? A simple yes or no will do. Like I just said the people behind this isn't just a list of 2.
The post is as bias as it gets. You really need to accept that there is nothing we can do about it and move on.
Any reply to this?
So CCC, Coventry & Warwickshire Chamber of Commerce (presumably you think Sandra Garlic is a double agent), Coventry University and the University of Warwick are all part of some conspiracy to "push the football club into the sidelines"? Really?
Even if you can just confirm if Sandra Garlic is a double agent or not will be enough for me
So once again outrage from CCFC fans regarding another cheap stunt by wasps and the council - except for the dynamic duo whose unwavering loyalty to the wasps cause remains.
Try reading the article. There is a long list of people involved including CRFC, Coventry Uni, Uni of Warwick, The Local Chamber of Commerce, Coventry schools etc. etc. etc.
You're clearly so blinkered you read wasp's and ccc, stop reading and start frothing. Do you actually know what the article was about?
I understand if your not interested in Rugby League but its hardly a non-event is it?
League looking to expand and not a bad place to start.
If Coventry does get a game, try it, you may enjoy it. Much better game than Union (in my humble opinion).
Will you commit go that?
Yes it was a typical PR piece from wasps and why they are allowing the league team at the Ricoh. It's only being promoted because of wasps and their desire to be in the community.
The other interested parties are doing what exactly?
Also why would garlick have anything to do with it? She's not head if the COC.
Your drive to the bottom goes on.
Yes it was a typical PR piece from wasps and why they are allowing the league team at the Ricoh. It's only being promoted because of wasps and their desire to be in the community.
The other interested parties are doing what exactly?
Also why would garlick have anything to do with it? She's not head if the COC.
Imagine if the Northampton fans had defended our move there as much as Tony and italia....oh sorry, Tony has no interest in them.
So the Rugby Football Union (RFU), Rugby Football League (RFL), Engage! Coventry, Coventry Sports Network, Coventry Rugby, Coventry Bears, Warwickshire RFU, Premiership Rugby, Coventry Sports Foundation, Coventry Sports Trust, Coventry City Council, University of Warwick, Coventry University, C&W Chamber of Commerce, Coventry Schools Union and the Millerchip Family Fund have nothing to do with it then. The article is all a lie? Is that a Grendull exclusive?
No one is defending it.
But at what point do you stop fighting the inevitable ?
You can carry on, I have joined the party and now enjoy both football and rugby.
I do prefer rugby league more than union as a game so there is more variety to come.
Just wish Sisu would be bought to task on the demise of our club and give us a plan for the future, but hey you (and others) take the easy option rather than upset them.
Looks to be a single game to start with, aren't they only semi pro? Same sort of thing as Bedworth United?
This actually looks like even more of a wasps PR stunt than I first thought.
Virtually all these bodies Tony seems very keen on are brand partners of engage a company set up in 2013 with the aid of the milichip fund.
In 2015 it was commissioned by wasps to take their premiership in the community project across the city to promote rugby.
Launch article attracted. What's the difference?
https://bdaily.co.uk/business-in-sport/20-10-2015/engage-announces-partnership-with-wasps/
No you take the easy way out and pour money down the franchises throat regardless of any consequence for CCFC.
As for taking the easy way out that's what you did wasn't it when you walked past Tim Fisher without saying anything?
What are you doing not to upset them?
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