Match Thread Coventry City - Rotherham United FC Match Thread - Tuesday 5th Mar (2 Viewers)

PVA · Mar 5, 2024

SBT said:
Well that’s not even what I said, but if you want to go down that road, Robins has opted for Dasilva over Bidwell many times, and on a few occasions it’s worked well. It’s also resulted in one of the worst individual performances I can remember from a City player, of course!

This is all easy to see from both the good old fashioned eye test AND the data. There is no great mystery here. I’ve no idea why Bidwell vs Dasilva continues to be this controversial question, the pros and cons of each player are screamingly obvious.

What I don't get is how Bidwell seems to be totally beyond reproach for many on here.

By all means criticise Dasilva, no issue with that, he's deserved plenty of it.

But it's the double standards that annoys me. Case in point people bemoan Dasilva for not beating a man yet I think Bidwell has beaten about 3 defenders in 2 seasons. And my favourite one, someone said Dasilva was sloppy in posession against Plymouth despite having 96% pass completion, and not a peep about Bidwell - who had 70% pass completion!

Like you say, their strengths and weaknesses are very obvious and certain games Bidwell is the better option and other games Dasilva is. The benefits of having a squad.

alfielloyd · Mar 5, 2024

SkyBlueSoul said:
Revert to a back 4, give Kelly another game and rest Eccles, then fit someone like Palmer on the right because we've got no-one who can do what Saka does. I'd have Collins back in but doesn't look like MR will.

3-1 City. Simms, Wright, Torp. Should be doing these.

Wilson
MvE Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Kelly Torp
Palmer O'Hare Wright
Simms

Collins, Lati, Binks, Dasilva, Eccles, Tavares, Godden, Kids x 2

Robins is the manager, he can therefore decide what he believes is the most effective team for any given match but after two defeats in 16 I would like to think he could come out and explain to supporters why he dropped Collins, instead he came out and merely stated he does not have a number one goalkeeper which is just fucking odd.

ccfcmad1 · Mar 5, 2024

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
Anyone need a ticket for tonight? I may have two spare, mate has to work lates but let me know as I will need to see if I can pick them up from him.

I have messaged you mate cheers

procdoc · Mar 5, 2024

PVA said:
What I don't get is how Bidwell seems to be totally beyond reproach for many on here.

By all means criticise Dasilva, no issue with that, he's deserved plenty of it.

But it's the double standards that annoys me. Case in point people bemoan Dasilva for not beating a man yet I think Bidwell has beaten about 3 defenders in 2 seasons. And my favourite one, someone said Dasilva was sloppy in posession against Plymouth despite having 96% pass completion, and not a peep about Bidwell - who had 70% pass completion!

Like you say, their strengths and weaknesses are very obvious and certain games Bidwell is the better option and other games Dasilva is. The benefits of having a squad.

Bidwell is superior. On this occasion I don’t care what the stats say. Dasilva cannot defend

Grendel · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Bidwell is superior. On this occasion I don’t care what the stats say. Dasilva cannot defend

Dasilva has been woefully inadequate against superior opposition

procdoc · Mar 5, 2024

Grendel said:
Dasilva has been woefully inadequate against superior opposition

Funny thing about the stats is they don’t show how often the opposition target Dasilva because they know he’s a weak link

oscillatewildly · Mar 5, 2024

Couldn't see us getting a point at Albion last Friday.
Regardless of selection/formation, I cannot see us losing tonight. Surely?

Jamesimus · Mar 5, 2024

oscillatewildly said:
Couldn't see us getting a point at Albion last Friday.
Regardless of selection/formation, I cannot see us losing tonight. Surely?

They absolutely bullied us in the away fixture didn’t they? Wasn’t that the game where Ayari looked like an under 12s player?

usskyblue · Mar 5, 2024

In general; Dasilva is marginally better higher up the pitch (low bar) and Bidwell is better defensively. They both have deficiencies but if you want to reduce your chances of conceding from that side, Bidwell is the safer option imo.

wingy · Mar 5, 2024

I don't by this de silva attacks more I've seen bidwell get up that wing a on and get the cross over plenty!

SBT · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Funny thing about the stats is they don’t show how often the opposition target Dasilva because they know he’s a weak link

The stats clearly show him as one of the worst defenders in the league! There is no stats conspiracy here, it’s all there in black and white.

oscillatewildly · Mar 5, 2024

Jamesimus said:
They absolutely bullied us in the away fixture didn’t they? Wasn’t that the game where Ayari looked like an under 12s player?

I honestly don't recall the game.
The thing is they are so far adrift they will probably play without any pressure - Could bring out the 'best' in them or the worst.

Philosoraptor · Mar 5, 2024

To quote the modern day philosophers of Fun Boy Three and Bananarama;

It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it
And that's what gets results

napolimp · Mar 5, 2024

SkyBlueSoul said:
Revert to a back 4, give Kelly another game and rest Eccles, then fit someone like Palmer on the right because we've got no-one who can do what Saka does. I'd have Collins back in but doesn't look like MR will.

3-1 City. Simms, Wright, Torp. Should be doing these.

Wilson
MvE Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Kelly Torp
Palmer O'Hare Wright
Simms

Collins, Lati, Binks, Dasilva, Eccles, Tavares, Godden, Kids x 2

I'd like to see this, but there's the option to switch Wright to the right wing, and play Dasilva on the left. Then you've got Palmer to come on later in the game.

stevefloyd · Mar 5, 2024

shmmeee said:
Someone posted up a stats comparison with MvE Bidwell and Dasilva. The only thing Bidwell was far superior on was heading. Everything else was about the same or (shot creating actions/assists) Dasilva was slightly better.

Stats are stats but we have seen that Bidwell is better!

Adge · Mar 5, 2024

It just has to be a win. Anything less than 3 points tonight is a disaster. Collins/Bidwell and Kitching from the start please.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 5, 2024

Cricket training ends at 7.45. Would be nice to not have conceded by the time I leave

robbiethemole · Mar 5, 2024

Always a big, strong, physical team, we need to match up/ stand up to them and not get rushed or bullied.

Adge · Mar 5, 2024

Oh and Kelly for Eccles.

procdoc · Mar 5, 2024

Heard it’s the same team starting that started get West Brom

mmttww · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Heard it’s the same team starting that started get West Brom

SeaSeeEffCee · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Heard it’s the same team starting that started get West Brom

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Heard it’s the same team starting that started get West Brom

Leaked team news brought to you by Saddle’s Sauce. The salty creamy treat that resembles the piss on your chips.

procdoc · Mar 5, 2024

I’m in Bedworth Lib and some bloke said it so must be true!

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Leaked team news brought to you by Saddle’s Sauce. The salty creamy treat that resembles the piss on your chips.

coop · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Heard it’s the same team starting that started get West Brom

Fucking hope not.

Gibbo · Mar 5, 2024

Tommo1993 said:
Don’t win this, deserve fuck all

the award for the least supportive post by somebody claiming to be a supporter goes to...

procdoc · Mar 5, 2024

Gibbo said:
the award for the least supportive post by somebody claiming to be a supporter goes to...

If we don’t beat these we don’t deserve to go up

coop · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
If we don’t beat these we don’t deserve to go up

Already lost to them

fernandopartridge · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
If we don’t beat these we don’t deserve to go up

If we win the number of games we need to after this of course we do

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MikeyMoo · Mar 5, 2024

Lats is on the cover doesn't that normally mean he plays?

no_loyalty · Mar 5, 2024

It would be embarrassing if they did the double over us, the only other teams they have beaten are Norwich and Middlesbrough.

PVA · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
Funny thing about the stats is they don’t show how often the opposition target Dasilva because they know he’s a weak link

The stats show that he is targeted as much as Bidwell is.

Gibbo · Mar 5, 2024

procdoc said:
If we don’t beat these we don’t deserve to go up

It must be pretty clear by now that a) we are struggling to stay in contention b) we certainly do not want promotion this year. But neither do they deserve needlessly narky comments.

fernandopartridge · Mar 5, 2024

Gibbo said:
It must be pretty clear by now that a) we are struggling to stay in contention b) we certainly do not want promotion this year. But neither do they deserve needlessly narky comments.

We are in contention, at this point an individual game does not really change that.

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SeaSeeEffCee · Mar 5, 2024

Thank fuck.

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