It was tight. but if it had been given to Cardiff, I'd have been asking for offside.Was Wright offside I didn't think he was number 4 playing him on? And He never tracked his man back for Kitchin 2nd.What was Kitchin doing with the first goal ffs.
Yeah he's definitely offside.Was Wright offside I didn't think he was number 4 playing him on? And He never tracked his man back for Kitchin 2nd.What was Kitchin doing with the first goal ffs.
That looks onside?
It's certainly very close but I think so yes.That looks onside?
Far sideShame that Lino wasn’t awake for the handball in the area
His shoulder is off I thinkThat looks onside?
I thought he might have had a better view than the refFar side
I thought the same during the match haven't seen all the decent angles yetThat looks onside?
Long way away to be certainI thought he might have had a better view than the ref
it was as if Kitchin was scoring a goal !!Long way away to be certain
Very close to where it was kicked too
I keep having flash backs of kitching smacking the ball in the roof of the net
Pretty sure Wilson would have saved it of course lol
Any part of the body that can play the ball counts towards offside always hasEvery Time a see the first Kitchin goal I get less and less sure what he's trying to do needs to play a simple ball past the post not clear the bar... Not like they have different outcomes... They also only gave one angle of the Wright disallowed goal which is odd as they normally give about 3. Deffo not his feet so must have been given for his shoulder, am I right in thinking that gets given next year?
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Sorry, wrong on both counts.Missed the game Monday, just looking at the highlights now.
Wright looks well onside to me.
First goal - are we sure it's Kitching who punts it? Looks like Bowler spearing it in on the turn on the replay.
Second goal - looks like a deflection off Bidwell to me.
Given the obtuse angle of this picture, there has to be a bit of perspective compensation between Haji and the Cardiff player behind him.Every Time a see the first Kitchin goal I get less and less sure what he's trying to do needs to play a simple ball past the post not clear the bar... Not like they have different outcomes... They also only gave one angle of the Wright disallowed goal which is odd as they normally give about 3. Deffo not his feet so must have been given for his shoulder, am I right in thinking that gets given next year?
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As I mentioned above, it was probably that Kitching had already made the decision to hoof it behind if it came through to him, but he didn’t reevaluate given how close he was to his own goal.The goals were conceding do worry me. Huddersfield- 10 mins left, 2-0 up away from home and we shoot ourselves in the foot. Cardiff- 1-0 up and Kitching does something brainless like that. Even back to Preston it was largely of our own making.
Yes including the defender's left foot!Any part of the body that can play the ball counts towards offside always has
Yep absolutely includes his left foot - could easily have been argued as a goalYes including the defender's left foot!
Yep 2-2 would have kept that momentum goingShame about the haji offside, he’s been desperate for a headed goal as well.
He's closer to the player on the left than the other 3.Not sure what people are seeing with Wright's offside. I know it's close but you can see quite clearly he is leaning towards goal and his upper body is offside. You can use the grass cut as the line. Crude but fairly clear to my eye: View attachment 34903
Lino has done well to spot it, 100% given off by VAR too.
Yep, gauging it by the player to his right, and compensating for the angle of the screenshot, Haji does look more or less in line.He's closer to the player on the left than the other 3.
You have also used the feet of the player on the right and not his upper body (he's also leaning towards the goal)
He's closer to the player on the left than the other 3.
You have also used the feet of the player on the right and not his upper body (he's also leaning towards the goal)
Shouldn’tI think Simms' position may well have affected the lino's decision too. If he had not been clearly offside, that may helped sway the lino's decision in our favour.
It doesn't matter who he is closer to?
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Player 1 is straddled across the grass cut line. His furthest point back is his left foot. Which is very similar to Haji's left foot. However, Haji's left shoulder is clearly closer to the goal due to his lean.
Player 2 is up right, again straddled over the grass cut.
To me there's a clear distance between either of those players most furthest point back and Haji's (red X)
I must be going mad as it's fairly clear to me.