MalcSB
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Coventry is buckling under strain of overseas arrivals: PAUL BRACCHI
More than one in four Coventry residents were born outside the UK and one in seven (almost 50,000 people) have arrived since 2011.
Saw that, I mentioned this on a thread earlier on this year but got shot down as an out and out racist. I won't be saying another word!Coventry is buckling under strain of overseas arrivals: PAUL BRACCHI
More than one in four Coventry residents were born outside the UK and one in seven (almost 50,000 people) have arrived since 2011.www.dailymail.co.uk
Ssshhhh! Can't say thatSpend half an hour in Bhandal's waiting room for an eye opener.
I think I know what you mean!Spend half an hour in Bhandal's waiting room for an eye opener.
Trouble is that cities are growing at an artificially high rate. The indigenous population of the UK hasn’t grown at all over the last couple of years - deaths slightly greater than births,Nuts…
Cities always have problems with services when they grow.
Because - as it says in the article - it is one of the fastest growing cities in the UK - behind London, Birmingham and Manchester. And we are all sick about hearing about the issues in those three.Where are the extra hospitals, doctors, schools, dentists, there aren't any, we are not the only City like this, there could of been loads the Mail picked out.
The Mail quote the current population at 350k... that's incorrect the Coventry/Bedworth conurbation has a current population of 449k.Because - as it says in the article - it is one of the fastest growing cities in the UK - behind London, Birmingham and Manchester. And we are all sick about hearing about the issues in those three.
So Coventry is a good example.
We havnt the infrastructure for all these people, I for one am looking to move out of the CityBecause - as it says in the article - it is one of the fastest growing cities in the UK - behind London, Birmingham and Manchester. And we are all sick about hearing about the issues in those three.
So Coventry is a good example.
Does it really matter as long as they are consistent with their data source?The Mail quote the current population at 350k... that's incorrect the Coventry/Bedworth conurbation has a current population of 449k.
Thing is, with all the building being promised nowhere will have the infrastructure. South Warwickshire NHS FT have objected to building proposals on the basis of the impact on services. The formula for allocation of NHS resources hasn't changed for a very long time (AFAIK) and is not equitable.We havnt the infrastructure for all these people, I for one am looking to move out of the City
Trouble is that cities are growing at an artificially high rate. The indigenous population of the UK hasn’t grown at all over the last couple of years - deaths slightly greater than births,
Thing is, with all the building being promised nowhere will have the infrastructure. South Warwickshire NHS FT have objected to building proposals on the basis of the impact on services. The formula for allocation of NHS resources hasn't changed for a very long time (AFAIK) and is not equitable.
The post answers that question, as did the article in the op.What’s an “artificially high rate” when it’s at home?
The fact of the matter is that the houses are being built, but the services aren’t.So we should all just pay loads for houses incase the government doesn’t open enough schools? Make it make sense. You build the houses and the services you need.
The fact of the matter is that the houses are being built, but the services aren’t.
if net immigration wasn’t running at 600,000 plus per year, being the underlying reason for population growth as deaths are marginally greater than births, pressure on housing and services wouldn’t be so great. In addition, there are apparently 700,000 empty houses in the UK.
I can just as easily suggest we should have cheap housing but accept there is nowhere to send your kids to school and that you will have a 15 hour wait - and potentially die - in an A&E corridor.
I said nothing about kicking brown people out. We need to stop allowing foreigners of all ethnicities in.Services have been underfunded for decades. School places not so long ago were in crisis and lots of schools were looking at closing TBF.
Lack of public services is down to the government not paying for them. Kicking the brown people out won’t change that.
There’s issues with immigration but you cant just lump everything in there. See also traffic.
I said nothing about kicking brown people out. We need to stop allowing foreigners of all ethnicities in.
Almost as an aside, how do councils get away with approving massive new housing developments, collecting the council tax from them when occupied, and yet not have to provide all the services meaning occupiers then have to pay a management company to cover the gap in services?
Because usually the developments are agreed with the developer having to build these services as well as part of the agreement, or having a s106 agreement. There's a few in Coventry where locals have been told they'll get schools, doctors, community centres etc. that have never materialised. I think more rural developments get a bit more than developments in cities etc. but the developers will obviously get away with as little as possible. With the s106 where money has been given, it rarely gets spent on the services because so many councils have no money because govt fucked them over with the social care bill.Almost as an aside, how do councils get away with approving massive new housing developments, collecting the council tax from them when occupied, and yet not have to provide all the services meaning occupiers then have to pay a management company to cover the gap in services?
It’s the only growth strategy of successive governments. People can’t stomach policies to make it easier to have kids, or to bring in immigrants. Something has to give. We can reduce growth and GDP but we would have even less money for services, pensions etc.I said nothing about kicking brown people out. We need to stop allowing foreigners of all ethnicities in.
would be interested in a breakdown of those figures. the big surge seems to coincide with a surge in university numbers
Your last sentence makes sense, however not convinced it would address the hospitals funding issue. Of course, a problem is that the developer can build GP surgeries and schools - they are not going to have to staff them.Because usually the developments are agreed with the developer having to build these services as well as part of the agreement, or having a s106 agreement. There's a few in Coventry where locals have been told they'll get schools, doctors, community centres etc. that have never materialised. I think more rural developments get a bit more than developments in cities etc. but the developers will obviously get away with as little as possible. With the s106 where money has been given, it rarely gets spent on the services because so many councils have no money because govt fucked them over with the social care bill.
Trouble is they let them build the houses then *shock* they say they've not got enough money left to build the services or they'll lose money, and they just get let off.
How about telling them they have to build the services first, and cannot build more than 25% of the housing until the services are in place? With the services built and in place the houses they build after are more valuable to them.
Yeah, it's not a fix-all. But would help somewhat with health if doctors surgeries were built (assuming we have enough to staff them). Same with schools - would help but still need the teachers and they're leaving in droves.Your last sentence makes sense, however not convinced it would address the hospitals funding issue. Of course, a problem is that the developer can build GP surgeries and schools - they are not going to have to staff them.
In all honesty Dave I'm unsure if student numbers are included....the population had been 400k plus for a good whilewould be interested in a breakdown of those figures. the big surge seems to coincide with a surge in university numbers
we have over 60K students in the city, can't find any figures for how much that has increased over the years. does that account for a big chunk of the increase?
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