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We are 4th, (5th in the xGd table).
Some over achievers in there (Sunderland, West Brom, Millwall, Blackburn) and under achievers (Luton, Middlesbrough, Hull, Cardiff).
This is why whoever comes in, I expect us and some of those underachieving teams with decent forwards to start climbing the table. If Robins had stayed, I imagine we’d have seen the same.
No point telling half on here is there , they think tables like this mean nothing long term and that teams that consistently create
Is that exactly 50%? I like to get my stats rightNo point telling half on here is there , they are oblivious to many stats and their meaning
An indication that we aren't as bad as people make out and that Robins would probably have turned it round.
It's an indication that we aren't putting our chances away
I mean to be fair, the only stat that counts is the league table. It does matter what we 'should' be achieving, it matters what we are achieving.No point telling half on here is there , they are oblivious to many stats and their meaning
I mean to be fair, the only stat that counts is the league table. It does matter what we 'should' be achieving, it matters what we are achieving.
And FWIW, I didn't want Robins gone, thought he'd turn it round and haven't been shitting the bed about relegation.
I mean to be fair, the only stat that counts is the league table. It does matter what we 'should' be achieving, it matters what we are achieving.
And FWIW, I didn't want Robins gone, thought he'd turn it round and haven't been shitting the bed about relegation.
Apart from a few outliers promotion teams for this division tend to defend well ( goals conceded). Our goal tally is actually decent compared to the rest of the division. it's goals conceded that have been sinking this team. Only 2 clean sheets, 21 conceded ( too many from individual errors as well).
The point is that the xg table is a very good predictor of the league table when the dust has settled & all teams have has their ups & downs.
For all the obsession with iPads, King clearly doesn’t know his way around one.
I mean to be fair, the only stat that counts is the league table. It does matter what we 'should' be achieving, it matters what we are achieving.
And FWIW, I didn't want Robins gone, thought he'd turn it round and haven't been shitting the bed about relegation.
Not trying to dig you out, but isn't your first sentence a pretty obvious statement and something we'd expect?
I'm pretty 'meh' with all this xG stuff to be honest.
And before I get responses saying I'm thick or don't understand, I'm well into Strokes Gained in the world of golf. Those are around actuals though - how a golfer compares to the rest, measured on a number of aspects of the game.
As far as I can see, xG is all about what 'should've happen.
Happy for anyone to convince me otherwise....but none of that chess nonsense Philosoraptor.
But why do you need a predictor of the league table when you can just look at the league table.
Whats the accuracy of the above table....if we finish 19th, does that mean its bollocks?
But why do you need a predictor of the league table when you can just look at the league table.
Whats the accuracy of the above table....if we finish 19th, does that mean it’s bollocks?
Fair enough.Why would anyone argue that is the only one that counts?
It absolutely does matter because it can give you an indication of where our issues are and whether we have been slightly unlucky so far and whether people are in a false league position - Preston after 10 games last season for example.
But why do you need a predictor of the league table when you can just look at the league table.
Whats the accuracy of the above table....if we finish 19th, does that mean its bollocks?
I'm surprised by that. Feel like I've watched too many games this season where we have not really laid a glove on the opposition
Does it say if we make lots of chances per game or wether it's the few chances we do make are likely to lead to goals?
Agree it's encouraging stat though regardless
Well that’s the opposite of what I think!And I'm not sure I subscribe to 'false league positions'. Teams are where they are in the league because that's where they deserve to be based on results.
We are top 8 for total XG aswellIts quantity Vs quality isn't it. Yesterday's goals were a bit of anomaly, teams haven't been scoring worldies past us every week. We may be creating more xG and conceding xGA but if those smaller number of xGA are of higher quality, they are more likely to score. Think Rudoni's backpass Vs the one against Middlesbrough where BTA could only get a toe on it.
Not trying to dig you out, but isn't your first sentence a pretty obvious statement and something we'd expect?
I'm pretty 'meh' with all this xG stuff to be honest.
And before I get responses saying I'm thick or don't understand, I'm well into Strokes Gained in the world of golf. Those are around actuals though - how a golfer compares to the rest, measured on a number of aspects of the game.
As far as I can see, xG is all about what 'should've happen.
Happy for anyone to convince me otherwise....but none of that chess nonsense Philosoraptor.
Well I think that's me told on xG. I'll look into it a bit more.
But probably still think it's bollocks next time it comes up in conversation
Weren't we lucky yesterday that the tackle rebounded off Brown straight into Wrights path for the first?
Weren't we lucky yesterday that the tackle rebounded off Brown straight into Wrights path for the first?
100% but people keep saying that teams have been lucky like we have been hard done too. I'm just pointing out we have had our own fair share of luck.I don’t see what that has to do with it, over a season this will happen to all clubs, for them and against them.
Yep, it’s a bit like expected wins every time I go to a game.No point telling half on here is there , they are oblivious to many stats and their meaning
Exactly, and the same about 7 or 8 we've scored. We haven't been unlucky, that's just football.You could say the same about 7 or 8 of the goals we've conceded this season though
Deflections , mistakes etc
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