Coventry City and the Ricoh Arena - What we know so far
Its funny Stuart Linnell goes on about people on social media stirring, it's a bit different to people bullshitting live on radio while paid by the BBC like he does..
Have to agree with that.This pitch issue would be a reason not to go back until we are promoted this year. I want city back at the Ricoh but not this season. Wasps get the pitch wrong virtually every season.
I can see the next PR story from Wasps:
[Retweeted by the Sky Blue Trust]
"When the Arena was originally planned in 1997, it was to have a retractable pitch. We have just delivered on that plan with a retractable pitch that can even be moved in the middle of the match. This is a first of its type for professional sport...."
And just to put any confusion to bed about the indemnity clause and the EU complaint, from Eastwood in the above article:
"Talks began in April and we entered those discussions in good faith. Since then we have been working to get that deal over the line and we did not halt discussions even when it emerged that the owners had filed a complaint to the European Commission as far back as February"
So they DID know about the complaint and still carried on talking when they knew about it, hopefully that shuts some people up about how it was all down to the EU complaint
I suppose as I said in the other thread - if there’s something wrong, then SISU should rightly be able to pursue the council.Thing is as the article says officially both sides have been under an NDA and aren’t talking. We don’t actually know the “legals” are the current action, we’ve all just assumed that. As I said in the other thread the statement from CCFC seems to imply it’s restricting Sisus ability to sue or appeal going forward that’s the issue.
I suppose as I said in the other thread - if there’s something wrong, then SISU should rightly be able to pursue the council.
It would be more than unfair if they weren’t able to seek indemnity from the party in the wrong
Maybe it was just a way to kick ccfc out without being the baddies?
After all, they were involved with a consortium trying to buy them at the time.
I’d imagine that ultimately the party seem to be in the wrong would be the seller for underselling - yes they’d recoup the money from wasps, but I’d imagine then SISU would sue for any losses they have incurred as a result of the undersellingIll park my cynicism on whether the legal action has any merit. How would CCC indemnifying them work? Wasps have to pay the council say £20m and then the council just give it back? And we are back where we were. Doesn’t sound like that’d be possible.
I think the whole indemnity thing is a joke and a spoiling tactic TBF. I can understand the agreement to stop legal action but not that.
I’d imagine that ultimately the party seem to be in the wrong would be the seller for underselling - yes they’d recoup the money from wasps, but I’d imagine then SISU would sue for any losses they have incurred as a result of the underselling
I’m not 100% sure but the underselling would be between wasps and the council,My understanding is that Wasps will be instructed to pay back any aid by the U.K. Government. The point is to return the market to how it was before the aid was given so not sure you could sue as surely any losses would’ve been taken into account in the ruling? God knows when it comes to this stuff.
I think that’s the point!! However Sisu And ccfc have signed an agreement not to take further legal action and so fully and squarely the only reason we are not playing in coventry currently is because we won’t sign the indemnity clause which is why Stuart should have been clearer and Clive shouldn’t make stupid points about coventry city sorting it outIts a terrible plan if so. Better to just let Sisu hang themselves by insisting on the ability to keep suing. People are sick of it and would’ve kicked off anyway.
I think that’s the point!! However Sisu And ccfc have signed an agreement not to take further legal action and so fully and squarely the only reason we are not playing in coventry currently is because we won’t sign the indemnity clause which is why Stuart should have been clearer and Clive shouldn’t make stupid points about coventry city sorting it out
"Restricting Sisu's legal rights" is just one of the resons that they won't accept the indemnity clause. The other reason is that indemnifying Wasps could bankrupt the club.
I assumed they thought they will win so it restricts it because they may need to pay out.Eh? How does an indemnity restrict your rights?
I assumed they thought they will win so it restricts it because they may need to pay out.
Really? Lets say SISU go full steam ahead, highly unlikely to say the least, and lets say the council are right behind it, again highly unlikely, you could still easily be looking at ten years or more until a new stadium is ready. Are you really saying we should forget the Ricoh and just wait it out in Birmingham until then.Still think it’s a distraction. We need stadium progress now, the Ricoh is gone.
I have no idea. Ask Sisu, as it's them that said it.Eh? How does an indemnity restrict your rights?
Really? Lets say SISU go full steam ahead, highly unlikely to say the least, and lets say the council are right behind it, again highly unlikely, you could still easily be looking at ten years or more until a new stadium is ready. Are you really saying we should forget the Ricoh and just wait it out in Birmingham until then.
I think most people would say even if a new stadium was being built playing at the Ricoh in the meantime would be the preferred option.
Im saying we have forgot the Ricoh. So I want us back ASAP. Unless you see a way through the “lEgAlS”/“iNdEmNiTy ClAuSe” impasse before the State Aid case is resolved.
at the doubletree hilton banging eastwoodInteresting that councillors are running a petition to stop the police museum moving from Coventry to Birmingham.
Where were they when it was ccfc?
Or the tax officeInteresting that councillors are running a petition to stop the police museum moving from Coventry to Birmingham.
Where were they when it was ccfc?
Should be a good phone in tonight with Stuart updating us all on the indemnity clause
That’s ok when?"We've reached out to the club and Wasps for comment, and are awaiting their response"
That’s ok when?
Yep here’s hoping. Let the pr men do their job but expect the journalists to do theirs tooHaha, I was just predicting what they were going to come up with tonight.
I'm not holding my breath on a definitive answer, but if there is one, hopefully it will force one of the parties to respond!
Yep@Sky Blue Pete Will you be following up last weeks call tonight pal?
Excellent questionsWhat’s the number to call for tonight? Do you have to ring early to have a chance? How does it all work? Think the last time I called was in the 90s.
Thinking of asking about the fact the fans are in the dark on key questions, those being:
- Surely Wasps accept that the indemnity clause (or whatever name you want to give it) is unacceptable and would bankrupt CCFC. So isn’t it basically a permanent block on CCFC returning?
- Are Wasps asking for the *current/ongoing* legal action to be stopped (in which case again it’s a permanent block) or future legal action (in which case what’s the difference between that and the agreement Sisu signed prior to talks)?
It sure seems to the untrained eye that this is Wasps putting a block on CCFC returning while there is any legal action at all. If that’s the case why haven’t the media taken this point to Wasps?
Not sure how to frame that in a way that won’t lead to CWR refusing to answer, but seems those are the key issues we need answers to and it’s pretty much the local media’s job to get us them.
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