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"The [football] club is, for me, a bit of a sideshow."
Instead they've bought a load of flim-flam from someone who can see a commercial advantage to himself, and cares not a jot about the city, or CCFC, or CRFC, or seemingly his own club's supporters. And it's the second time they've done it which makes it far, far worse.
Oh, right - you think the 2+2 deal isn't a lease. You're thinking it's a rent deal for a set period. The set period being 2+2 years. Possible, but either way, if Wasps broke it they'd be up before the court wouldn't they? So again, let's not pretend that the council have asked them to do anything other than what they are legally obliged to do.
sounds great to me. What was Tim's response? The stadium's definitely going ahead and SISU are continuing with the JR?
Not so awe-inspiring and probably the final point/ justification for agreeing the wasps deal.
Oh, right - you think the 2+2 deal isn't a lease. You're thinking it's a rent deal for a set period. The set period being 2+2 years. Possible, but either way, if Wasps broke it they'd be up before the court wouldn't they? So again, let's not pretend that the council have asked them to do anything other than what they are legally obliged to do.
Mate, you're not going to get any denial from me about TF being daft, but how long did the council actually give it to 'rebuild trust'. In reality, they were already talking to Wasps at the point that the Councillor made this statement.
How much trust did that show?
say, that Tim had reacted differently and said, let's start again. We'll drop the stadium and JR, go back to the 5,5 mil h.o.t. agreement plus a deal on the council loan. No more messing - either side. Let's go for commercial advantage for both sides. Long term lease, investment, business plan etc.. What can CCC offer us? Would CCC have got all 54 councillors to sign up for the Wasps deal if that were the case?
"The [football] club is, for me, a bit of a sideshow."
It is isn't it....is that why attendance is on its knees? Without SISU vs CCC I think interest would be even lower.
Hell would have freezed over before your lot would offer the club anything. Or have you forgotten that?
Surely we don't know as it was behind closed doors. Not to mention the fact that some of them sPeaking about it on twitter seem to know less about it than us, or are acting dumb.the question was, would all 54 councillors have agreed to the Wasps deal at the vote? I think there would have been a good few that would have wanted further talks with CCFC first before signing the deal. Steve West etc. are not councillors.
Surely we don't know as it was behind closed doors. Not to mention the fact that some of them sPeaking about it on twitter seem to know less about it than us, or are acting dumb.
Surely we don't know as it was behind closed doors. Not to mention the fact that some of them sPeaking about it on twitter seem to know less about it than us, or are acting dumb.
Hell would have freezed over before your lot would offer the club anything. Or have you forgotten that?
So you don't know either? For somebody saying they are too busy with work for ccfc football you seem to be putting a great shift in for the council.No, we don't know what would have happened if SISU had showed interest and a constructive attitude after returning to the Ricoh. It would be a fair assumption though, that they would have had more chance to join in the bidding if they had shown that they wanted the Ricoh and were prepared to drop the JR and their stadium in return for a viable solution. Many councillors are CCFC fans and I think some would have asked for further talks ( can't prove it though ).
I'm sure "Martcov" knows
So what's that got to do with anything anybody was talking about?I know that if you keep saying "new stadium" "JR" "encumbered freehold or nothing", you will not be offered a good deal. The proof? Wasps are sitting in the Ricoh where SISU have had 7 years to do something about getting at least a share in the stadium. Do you need more proof?
So you don't know either? For somebody saying they are too busy with work for ccfc football you seem to be putting a great shift in for the council.
So what's that got to do with anything anybody was talking about?
No but they are playing in coventry tomorrow, you can listen and read about it on the internet.I do get some free time, like now. Are CCFC playing in Kiel tonight? I might pop down if they are.
No but they are playing in coventry tomorrow, you can listen and read about it on the internet.
dunno what everyone is bleeting about, wasps now get those crummy offices
Is your information on the politics first hand then?I do, as you know. But I don't comment on performances as my information is second-hand and someone else's view point. Tomorrow afternoon I am working, but will check on here and other sites now and again.
Is your information on the politics first hand then?
Wasps are going to get 30,000 for a european game!!!
Will be all the councillors with free tickets and fresh out the packet wasps shirts.They might, maybe. They get far bigger for the seasons openers at Twickenham after all.
The danger will be if this happens the once, or even close to it, that it's used as evidence for the 'potential'...
They might, maybe. They get far bigger for the seasons openers at Twickenham after all.
The danger will be if this happens the once, or even close to it, that it's used as evidence for the 'potential'...
Surely if it is a plus they bring premiership rugby then that's franchising? Why not help our club get there?
They couldn't wriggle out of the 2+2 deal to the club anyway, it's contractual. They could've taken the SISU way and wound ACL up I suppose, but then neither they nor Higgs would make any money.
So, in terms of the council's 'deal breakers' what guarantees did they put in place to protect either CCFC or CRFC?
Did they offer the club the same deal?
What about Cubbington - that's quite interesting too. There is also a place north of Coventry called 'Barton on the Beans' - now that is seriously interesting :guitar2:
Nowt by the sounds of it. As you say, the contractual obligation was there anyway, so how on earth can they say this is a good deal for Coventry City?
Wisdom?tbh I wopuldn't expect an organisation who refuse(d) to countenance dealing with SISU because they were supposed to be making money off the back of the football club... to themselves be making money off the back of the football club, no.
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