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Please provide some more details on this Grendel I’m interested on how you have found this out and the evidence to support it
Please provide some more details on this Grendel I’m interested on how you have found this out and the evidence to support itRobins has fell out with like he does with all the senior players
Unfortunately we don’t have lucrative owners who are prepared to splash the cash to buy these players ahead of everyone elseSo you think packing a team with exclusively kids is a winning strategy? I am not talking about has beens I'm talking about players at their peak.
It's wrong to say Robins falls out with all the senior players
Well said.For me Robins gets this season as long as we’re not in serious danger of relegation, which we aren’t currently. He’s trying to build something and should be given the chance to continue.
Luton storming this league after promotion last year because they have a consistent policy in place. I bet over the years some of their fans were demanding instant success too.
Burton - Clough built them for years
MK - Robinson built them for years
Rotherham - developed a sustainable approach
Yeovil - went up but then fucked about with managers and now in danger of falling out of the football league.
Hiwula has scores goals in this league before.
Chaplin is developing and should be given the year to settle
He saw we needed leadership at the right age after letting Doyle and Ogogo leave so bought in a 29 year old that recently captained Ireland and played in the Premier League.
Just because you saw us in the premier league as a kid doesn’t give us any right to be there now. Hull, a city of a similar size, had never seen a top flight team until recently. We’ve had the guts ripped out of this club and it’s madness to want to remove the man who actually looks like putting it back together.
None of this is to say I’m happy with our form but we’re not that far away. As everyone is saying we keep missing sitters, they start going in and we win a lot more games, we’re creating great chances to put games away. I’ve seen us play a lot worse than recently and win, we’re nowhere near how poor we were in our relegation seasons. We’ve competed with the top teams so are obviously capable.
Inconsistency and lack of confidence are traits that are more apparent in younger players but if you support them through those mistakes they become better players as the years go by. So many players have been lambasted in their first season or two here only to go on to have good careers.
We have a plan. Let’s stick to it and not do what we’ve done time and time again while we slip down the leagues.
Doi yiou duo itt om purpowese?Little bit of patience required BSB
I agree we need to be ba k in championship
But for me we sre finnsly playing a better brand of footbsll. Slmethkng i hsve gone on sbout on this forum for years aboit so for me we have turned a corner. Now its the lil thibgs holding ud bsck that will be rectidied this year or next if budget allows
I wouldnt chsnge manager regardless this year. Lets see how we do next season
Also 9pts off playoffs(yes 8 of relegstion) so not all hope is lost yet
I don’t think you can make the argument that we get on them unfairly for the odd mistakes; it happens over and over again and much more frequently than mistakes benefit us. And nobody said that these players will never make it, what people do say is that a lot of these players are shit right now and show no particular signs of improvement.It’s really strange slagging off players who are 21/22... especially writing them off as shit. It’s like as a professional footballer god forbid you make a mistake.
Or to put it another way: if you started a new job I don’t think after 6 months, at 21 anybody would be writing you off as shit, and saying you are never going to be successful in your field.
For me Robins gets this season as long as we’re not in serious danger of relegation, which we aren’t currently. He’s trying to build something and should be given the chance to continue.
Luton storming this league after promotion last year because they have a consistent policy in place. I bet over the years some of their fans were demanding instant success too.
Burton - Clough built them for years
MK - Robinson built them for years
Rotherham - developed a sustainable approach
Yeovil - went up but then fucked about with managers and now in danger of falling out of the football league.
Hiwula has scores goals in this league before.
Chaplin is developing and should be given the year to settle
He saw we needed leadership at the right age after letting Doyle and Ogogo leave so bought in a 29 year old that recently captained Ireland and played in the Premier League.
Just because you saw us in the premier league as a kid doesn’t give us any right to be there now. Hull, a city of a similar size, had never seen a top flight team until recently. We’ve had the guts ripped out of this club and it’s madness to want to remove the man who actually looks like putting it back together.
None of this is to say I’m happy with our form but we’re not that far away. As everyone is saying we keep missing sitters, they start going in and we win a lot more games, we’re creating great chances to put games away. I’ve seen us play a lot worse than recently and win, we’re nowhere near how poor we were in our relegation seasons. We’ve competed with the top teams so are obviously capable.
Inconsistency and lack of confidence are traits that are more apparent in younger players but if you support them through those mistakes they become better players as the years go by. So many players have been lambasted in their first season or two here only to go on to have good careers.
We have a plan. Let’s stick to it and not do what we’ve done time and time again while we slip down the leagues.
Grendel you going to answer my question then or avoid it. You have made a strong statement that Robins has fell out with the players so please provide the evidence of where this has come fromOut of interest what is the plan
For me Robins gets this season as long as we’re not in serious danger of relegation, which we aren’t currently. He’s trying to build something and should be given the chance to continue.
Luton storming this league after promotion last year because they have a consistent policy in place. I bet over the years some of their fans were demanding instant success too.
Burton - Clough built them for years
MK - Robinson built them for years
Rotherham - developed a sustainable approach
Yeovil - went up but then fucked about with managers and now in danger of falling out of the football league.
Hiwula has scores goals in this league before.
Chaplin is developing and should be given the year to settle
He saw we needed leadership at the right age after letting Doyle and Ogogo leave so bought in a 29 year old that recently captained Ireland and played in the Premier League.
Just because you saw us in the premier league as a kid doesn’t give us any right to be there now. Hull, a city of a similar size, had never seen a top flight team until recently. We’ve had the guts ripped out of this club and it’s madness to want to remove the man who actually looks like putting it back together.
None of this is to say I’m happy with our form but we’re not that far away. As everyone is saying we keep missing sitters, they start going in and we win a lot more games, we’re creating great chances to put games away. I’ve seen us play a lot worse than recently and win, we’re nowhere near how poor we were in our relegation seasons. We’ve competed with the top teams so are obviously capable.
Inconsistency and lack of confidence are traits that are more apparent in younger players but if you support them through those mistakes they become better players as the years go by. So many players have been lambasted in their first season or two here only to go on to have good careers.
We have a plan. Let’s stick to it and not do what we’ve done time and time again while we slip down the leagues.
Grendel you going to answer my question then or avoid it. You have made a strong statement that Robins has fell out with the players so please provide the evidence of where this has come from
Easy to say but all the players are on social media these days and even without seeking it out they have people tagging them on messages saying how shit they are. Then you have a decent chunk of the crowd just waiting for a mistake so they can hurl abuse and boo.
It's not as simple as Robins just telling them they're great.
Interesting that Accrington were held up as the pantheon of consistency last season and people wanted us to be as organised in our roles and responsibilities as them. They haven’t even scored a goal in the league since Boxing Day.
You really are a moron. Never anything constructive or positive.Yes he’s appalling as well and has a reputation built on a couple of games and we are supposed to ignore the other 40
No Grendel has a point, I think if you track the MR managerial record it’s similar at most if not all of his clubs,starts well for 18months/2 years then all of a sudden the wheels come off. We have a lot of senior players not getting games on a regular basis for a struggling team.You really are a moron. Never anything constructive or positive.
I don’t think you can make the argument that we get on them unfairly for the odd mistakes; it happens over and over again and much more frequently than mistakes benefit us. And nobody said that these players will never make it, what people do say is that a lot of these players are shit right now and show no particular signs of improvement.
Deluded. Loads of people have written them off. If you want to deny it go ahead. But they have.
Again they are young they will make mistakes. Lower league players tend to develop slowly, probably won't see the benefits until next season/end of the season.
They should have put an offer in for some of our strikers.Interesting that Accrington were held up as the pantheon of consistency last season and people wanted us to be as organised in our roles and responsibilities as them. They haven’t even scored a goal in the league since Boxing Day.
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