He's not strong enough for me
Nor is our entire squad but their you go.
He's not strong enough for me
But can we afford to keep someone with a fragile mind? If he has got through the worse of it for sure then I say keep him.
Poor comment and shows a poor understanding of the illness if you don't mind me saying. If it's clinical depression you don't really "get over the worst" and depression isn't "a fragile mind". I'd wager living with depressive thoughts requires a damn sight more mental strength than you seem to imagine.
You're a decent bloke so I'm sure you mean well, just don't like seeing this kind of talk about mental illness. It comes in many forms and effects people in many ways and is often just the price of an intelligent mind, implying that it makes him fragile or in some way unreliable without other evidence isn't right IMO.
Pot kettleDon't twist his words.
Poor comment and shows a poor understanding of the illness if you don't mind me saying. If it's clinical depression you don't really "get over the worst" and depression isn't "a fragile mind". I'd wager living with depressive thoughts requires a damn sight more mental strength than you seem to imagine.
You're a decent bloke so I'm sure you mean well, just don't like seeing this kind of talk about mental illness. It comes in many forms and effects people in many ways and is often just the price of an intelligent mind, implying that it makes him fragile or in some way unreliable without other evidence isn't right IMO.
Poor comment and shows a poor understanding of the illness if you don't mind me saying. If it's clinical depression you don't really "get over the worst" and depression isn't "a fragile mind". I'd wager living with depressive thoughts requires a damn sight more mental strength than you seem to imagine.
You're a decent bloke so I'm sure you mean well, just don't like seeing this kind of talk about mental illness. It comes in many forms and effects people in many ways and is often just the price of an intelligent mind, implying that it makes him fragile or in some way unreliable without other evidence isn't right IMO.
Fair comments but I think if a thread is up about this people should express their opinion in anyway they seem fit. I jest not when I say I suffered from depression for 13 years and I didn't know I had it. As you say there are many forms of depression but with all the sufferer doesn't need sympathy, they need understanding and support. Saying it would be wromg to keep him is a very sensitive issue and if one wants to pass judgement it is essential one looks at it from both sides. If TM didn't keep him because of this illness is totally up to TM. His decision should be respected because his job is on the line. A manager's position is never secure look at SP who signed a 4 year deal only last year.
The only problem I have with the whole thing is why he needed to 'open-up'? Has he moved on? Of course I wish him and every person and player a good healthy life but we all have problems.[/QUOTE
He's opened up because its brave, it changes things and I thank him for it. 'We all have problems' ? How crushingly naive do you sound?
Fair comments but I think if a thread is up about this people should express their opinion in anyway they seem fit. I jest not when I say I suffered from depression for 13 years and I didn't know I had it. As you say there are many forms of depression but with all the sufferer doesn't need sympathy, they need understanding and support. Saying it would be wromg to keep him is a very sensitive issue and if one wants to pass judgement it is essential one looks at it from both sides. If TM didn't keep him because of this illness is totally up to TM. His decision should be respected because his job is on the line. A manager's position is never secure look at SP who signed a 4 year deal only last year.
The only problem I have with the whole thing is why he needed to 'open-up'? Has he moved on? Of course I wish him and every person and player a good healthy life but we all have problems.
So if your a manager it's ok to sack someone with depression if you think his "problems" may result in your own job being accountable?
Fucking hell.
So if your a manager it's ok to sack someone with depression if you think his "problems" may result in your own job being accountable?
Fucking hell.