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Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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chiefdave

chiefdave

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Captain Dart said:
Wow..

www.bbc.co.uk

Actor Gene Hackman and wife Betsy Arakawa died of natural causes

Authorities say Betsy Arakawa likely died days before Hackman, and it's possible he was not aware because of advanced Alzheimer's.
www.bbc.co.uk

I can't imagine visits would be fun but you might expect his children to at least speak to his wife.
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There's something really off about this. There's the dog thing as well. If they both died of natural causes what happened to the dog? Must have been food around as there were two other dogs that survived.

Can't imagine he was skint, at 95 with Alzheimers surely he would have had some sort of care and not be relying 100% on his wife.
 
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chiefdave said:
There's something really off about this. There's the dog thing as well. If they both died of natural causes what happened to the dog? Must have been food around as there were two other dogs that survived.

Can't imagine he was skint, at 95 with Alzheimers surely he would have had some sort of care and not be relying 100% on his wife.
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The dead dog was in a crate, so presumably there wasn’t anyone to let it out, whereas the other dogs could forage for food.

Horrendous and bizarre story all round really. It really is awful that anyone that old and vulnerable could be left alone for such a long time, let alone someone with such fame and wealth.
 
Sbarcher

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SBT said:
The dead dog was in a crate, so presumably there wasn’t anyone to let it out, whereas the other dogs could forage for food.

Horrendous and bizarre story all round really. It really is awful that anyone that old and vulnerable could be left alone for such a long time, let alone someone with such fame and wealth.
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Scramble now for his $80m estate by children who seemed not to give a f$$k while they were alive.
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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bezzer said:
Eddie Jordan 😞
Apparently he was fighting aggressive prostate cancer. A reminder to all blokes on here to get a PSA test.
RIP Eddie.
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No screening for me while I am healthy thanks, I am not volunteering to become a patient.
  • The PSA Test and its Limitations:
    The PSA (prostate-specific antigen) test, a blood test used to screen for prostate cancer, has been the subject of debate and scrutiny. While it can detect prostate cancer, it's not very accurate, and can lead to false positives, meaning that a man might be tested positive for prostate cancer when he doesn't have it, or that a cancer might be detected that is slow growing and may never cause harm.

  • Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment:
    The PSA test has been criticized for leading to overdiagnosis and overtreatment, meaning that many men are diagnosed and treated for prostate cancer that would not have caused them harm in their lifetime.

  • Potential Harms of Screening:
    Prostate cancer screening, including the PSA test, can lead to unnecessary follow-up tests, such as biopsies, and treatments, which can have side effects like pain, impotence, and incontinence.

  • US Preventive Services Task Force Recommendation:
    The US Preventive Services Task Force, a panel of experts that makes recommendations on preventive health services, has advised against routine PSA screening for healthy men.

  • New York Times Articles:
    The New York Times has published numerous articles on the topic of prostate cancer screening, including articles that discuss the concerns about the PSA test and the recommendations of the US Preventive Services Task Force.
 

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rob9872

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That's really sad. I first heard he was ill on TalkSport only a few weeks back. I had no idea and thought something didnt sound right with him (almost a little drunk), but then he mentioned at the end about his illness and I felt bad for thinking it. Brazil briefly mentioned Celtic and Coventry to him, he was at the time trying to get London Irish rugby going again.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Captain Dart said:
No screening for me while I am healthy thanks, I am not volunteering to become a patient.
  • The PSA Test and its Limitations:
    The PSA (prostate-specific antigen) test, a blood test used to screen for prostate cancer, has been the subject of debate and scrutiny. While it can detect prostate cancer, it's not very accurate, and can lead to false positives, meaning that a man might be tested positive for prostate cancer when he doesn't have it, or that a cancer might be detected that is slow growing and may never cause harm.

  • Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment:
    The PSA test has been criticized for leading to overdiagnosis and overtreatment, meaning that many men are diagnosed and treated for prostate cancer that would not have caused them harm in their lifetime.

  • Potential Harms of Screening:
    Prostate cancer screening, including the PSA test, can lead to unnecessary follow-up tests, such as biopsies, and treatments, which can have side effects like pain, impotence, and incontinence.

  • US Preventive Services Task Force Recommendation:
    The US Preventive Services Task Force, a panel of experts that makes recommendations on preventive health services, has advised against routine PSA screening for healthy men.

  • New York Times Articles:
    The New York Times has published numerous articles on the topic of prostate cancer screening, including articles that discuss the concerns about the PSA test and the recommendations of the US Preventive Services Task Force.
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That's the entire point of the test. People think they're healthy because they don't tend to start getting ill until it's really serious. It may not be perfect, but it saves lives.
 
eastwoodsdustman

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Captain Dart said:
No screening for me while I am healthy thanks, I am not volunteering to become a patient.
  • The PSA Test and its Limitations:
    The PSA (prostate-specific antigen) test, a blood test used to screen for prostate cancer, has been the subject of debate and scrutiny. While it can detect prostate cancer, it's not very accurate, and can lead to false positives, meaning that a man might be tested positive for prostate cancer when he doesn't have it, or that a cancer might be detected that is slow growing and may never cause harm.

  • Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment:
    The PSA test has been criticized for leading to overdiagnosis and overtreatment, meaning that many men are diagnosed and treated for prostate cancer that would not have caused them harm in their lifetime.

  • Potential Harms of Screening:
    Prostate cancer screening, including the PSA test, can lead to unnecessary follow-up tests, such as biopsies, and treatments, which can have side effects like pain, impotence, and incontinence.

  • US Preventive Services Task Force Recommendation:
    The US Preventive Services Task Force, a panel of experts that makes recommendations on preventive health services, has advised against routine PSA screening for healthy men.

  • New York Times Articles:
    The New York Times has published numerous articles on the topic of prostate cancer screening, including articles that discuss the concerns about the PSA test and the recommendations of the US Preventive Services Task Force.
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Although they say its slow growing and not harmful it can and does spread to bones and other area's.

Get checked !!
 
rondog1973

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Captain Dart said:
No screening for me while I am healthy thanks, I am not volunteering to become a patient.
  • The PSA Test and its Limitations:
    The PSA (prostate-specific antigen) test, a blood test used to screen for prostate cancer, has been the subject of debate and scrutiny. While it can detect prostate cancer, it's not very accurate, and can lead to false positives, meaning that a man might be tested positive for prostate cancer when he doesn't have it, or that a cancer might be detected that is slow growing and may never cause harm.

  • Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment:
    The PSA test has been criticized for leading to overdiagnosis and overtreatment, meaning that many men are diagnosed and treated for prostate cancer that would not have caused them harm in their lifetime.

  • Potential Harms of Screening:
    Prostate cancer screening, including the PSA test, can lead to unnecessary follow-up tests, such as biopsies, and treatments, which can have side effects like pain, impotence, and incontinence.

  • US Preventive Services Task Force Recommendation:
    The US Preventive Services Task Force, a panel of experts that makes recommendations on preventive health services, has advised against routine PSA screening for healthy men.

  • New York Times Articles:
    The New York Times has published numerous articles on the topic of prostate cancer screening, including articles that discuss the concerns about the PSA test and the recommendations of the US Preventive Services Task Force.
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Okay, wait until you're terminal and then get screened 👍
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's the entire point of the test. People think they're healthy because they don't tend to start getting ill until it's really serious. It may not be perfect, but it saves lives.
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It is impossible to save a life, all you can do is extend life. These tests do not do that, they positively impact 'survival time' stats which looks good but means nothing because that is an inevitable consequence of early diagnosis, then there is the damage caused by misdiagnosis. I am not saying you should ignore symptoms but most prostrate cancer is not the cause of death, Jordan had an aggressive cancer not the common slow form. Anyway I have my approach to health you are free to follow yours.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Captain Dart said:
It is impossible to save a life, all you can do is extend life. These tests do not do that, they positively impact 'survival time' stats which looks good but means nothing because that is an inevitable consequence of early diagnosis, then there is the damage caused by misdiagnosis. I am not saying you should ignore symptoms but most prostrate cancer is not the cause of death, Jordan had an aggressive cancer not the common slow form. Anyway I have my approach to health you are free to follow yours.
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So why bother taking any kind of medicine or having any kind of test/treatment? It'll only extend your life, which will end at some point in the future anyway, so what's the point?

As you say, you can approach your health as you see fit, but I just hope this doesn't come back to bite you. Prostrate cancer - don't take it lying down!
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
So why bother taking any kind of medicine or having any kind of test/treatment? It'll only extend your life, which will end at some point in the future anyway, so what's the point?

As you say, you can approach your health as you see fit, but I just hope this doesn't come back to bite you. Prostrate cancer - don't take it lying down!
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Don't assume I don't take care of my health. 😁
 
Terry_dactyl

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All this is rather pertinent for me and mine at the moment. My partners manager, whom she has known for 20 years - they have been close for most of this time - has just found out he’s got a couple of months to live cos of prostate cancer. He was in meetings last week with her…and were talking about him going in for a checkup.

Her dad had his removed last year cos he got checked out. He’s now planning a trip to Vegas for next year.
 
tisza

tisza

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RIP Eddie Jordan
Had the pleasure of an extremely raucous night out in Budapest (included casinos, an establishment called the Black Cat club and dodgy dives!!!) with Eddie and Eddie Irvine's family during a Hungarian F1 week. Would see him at subsequent races in Budapest and he'd have a giggle about that particular night.
 
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