Also let's challenge the statement in base terms. How many English rugby clubs have moved as far as Wasps have now moved from their home?
Well no one has moved as far as you well know, but it's not unheard of in rugby for clubs to move base. Saracens have had about 3 "home" grounds in the last decade.
I'm not defending the move, but there are definitely less obstacles to moving a rugby club than there would be for a football club.
The reasons are purely commercial, if it were down to sentiment no club would ever move home.
So, what have we ascertained?
No Rugby club moves as far as Wasps.
Saracens have found themselves returning to London after failed attempts to leave.
(How many non London Rugby clubs have moved substantially?)
As for the more sociological elements, here are a few conclusions which are not unreasonable based on the above:
Even one move is not sufficient, a rugby club's tie to place is, supposedly, far less and thus the potential for them to move once more is greatly enhanced.
Apparently, the club's tie to place is insufficient for it to have a cultural impact on them moving.
A rugby club's role in increasing cultural awareness of place is insignificant.
Now, if all these are correct... why would a city council find it a good idea to sell to a rugby club, if it risks their football team also becoming nomadic? All this does is diminish the cultural value and cultural awareness of the city the council is supposed to be representing.
Therefore, it is a poor decision not just for the football club, but for the city. Cultural value will outshine financial value long term, after all.
(And as for the short term finances, we can't see if it's a poor decision or otherwise on base numbers until the FOI requests and appeals are made for the information to be released)
Do you wait on the football club knowing the history of previous dealings and aware that the stadium management company was about to fold because of them ?
Or pocketBut what do you do if the football club has no intention of buying the stadium and someone else does ?
Do you wait on the football club knowing the history of previous dealings and aware that the stadium management company was about to fold because of them ?
Answer with your mind not your heart.
I have answered with my mind above.
We were told repeatedly that the stadium management company was not about to fold because of the football club. That is the evidence available to us.
So when Sisu made their play, CCC should have said if you don't come back we will go bankrupt.
Now the answer from your head !!
I have given the answer from my head above, you just seem unwilling to accept it.
In terms of head v heart, I'm afraid it's you coming up with the empty rhetoric in this thread to skew a position.
It's not with your head.
Well no one has moved as far as you well know, but it's not unheard of in rugby for clubs to move base. Saracens have had about 3 "home" grounds in the last decade.
Yes their last move was back home, and was the result of a decade of raising money to do so, which led to the original ground sharing. Perhaps Wasps could do the same and return to London.
Perhaps they will in 10 years time and hopefully CCFC can afford to buy it then .
We need to make sure that the hate of Wasps playing in 'our' stadium does not cloud our judgement.
We haven't had a ground since 2005. This isn't s new problem!
Oh how I long for Highfield Road. It's hard to imagine a child falling in love with the club and the game in general in the same way as I did HR. Especially not with the huge we wasps and their badges stuck everywhere.
Oh how I long for Highfield Road. It's hard to imagine a child falling in love with the club and the game in general in the same way as I did HR. Especially not with the huge we wasps and their badges stuck everywhere.
Oh how I long for Highfield Road. It's hard to imagine a child falling in love with the club and the game in general in the same way as I did HR. Especially not with the huge we wasps and their badges stuck everywhere.
Beautifully put as well, was same for me. Fell in love with the whole package but as much the surroundings as the football. Even in my 20,s I would use any excuse to drive past
I think we only remember the things we want to from HR, we forget things like lack of leg room,poor views, not enough toilets, thousands walking down the side of the park to avoid trouble in the park.
Even with all the faults and I am sure there were others it was ours and not some out of town egg chasers, I blame the three amigos (BR,MM,GR) for this situation starting, is MM still president of the club as when he croaks it they need not bother with a minutes silence.
I think we only remember the things we want to from HR, we forget things like lack of leg room,poor views, not enough toilets, thousands walking down the side of the park to avoid trouble in the park.
Even with all the faults and I am sure there were others it was ours and not some out of town egg chasers, I blame the three amigos (BR,MM,GR) for this situation starting, is MM still president of the club as when he croaks it they need not bother with a minutes silence.
Plenty of leg room on the Kop
If we were in the PL when we moved to the Ricoh we would be praising them now.
We were out of the Prem because of them they kept Idiot Strachan when most sensible people could see he should have gone months before we were relegated.
Did you see the team we had when Strachan was here in that last season?
Should never had gone down.
Did you see the team we had when Strachan was here in that last season?
Should never had gone down.
parts of the main stand were a bit tight, I also think this ground is a bit more family friendly partly due to less trouble but also better facilities which is good as we get more children and females in the ground.
the Koop I used to have to get there for about 1 to get my space now I can rock up at 2.59 ah forget HR this place is great
Given the obsession with fast food and betting most people Rock up at 3.10 making everybody move and generally getting on my tits!
It's more the flogging of HR without buying a new home that got me
Mind you, we only disposed of it properly once we handed over the keys to the Ricoh to someone else.
Interesting. Tell me more
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