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If Derby get away with paying less they will soon be using the money to sign players. When hmrx lose we all lose.
Why she bringing the Conservative government into it, its down to HMRC!Derby 'face liquidation' unless tax bill slashed but Rooney says it 'isn't an option'
Derby are reportedly facing liquidation unless HMRC agree to reduce the club’s tax bill by a staggering £20million. Administrators are trying to find a buyer for the club, but debts are reported to…talksport.com
But Margaret Beckett is all for leniancy :
Dame Margaret Beckett, MP for Derby South, has called for HMRC to be lenient in its discussions with Derby County.
Beckett, who briefly acted as Labour Party leader in 1994, was reacting to reports the club could be facing liquidation if HMRC is unwilling to decrease the debt owed by the club significantly.
She told The Athletic: “I hope HMRC look sympathetically because losing Derby County would be disastrous.
“Though under this government, one cannot be sure they will.”
Derby’s co-administrators, Carl Jackson and Andrew Hosking, are confident of presenting a preferred buyer to the EFL within the next two weeks and are currently undergoing discussions with HMRC, along with other creditors, to reduce the amount owed or spread the cost over a more extended period.
Owing to their status as a preferential creditor, HMRC have the right to demand that the £29.3 million debt be paid back in full. The administrators hope they can continue with “positive talks” as HMRC would receive much less if the club is placed in liquidation.
However, Beckett revealed that there are problems in sourcing a preferred buyer. She added that while she has spoken to the administrators, discussions with potential owners appear to have gone “pear-shaped” since their conversation.
You're surprised that a politician (of any brand) is speaking bollocks?W
Why she bringing the Conservative government into it, its down to HMRC!
It would be a tragedy if a great club with a long tradition like Derby were shut down due to gross negligence from its owners.
Bury fans must get annoyed that big clubs get more sympathy than they did.Which is correct, but you also see nothing wrong with keeping a system that encourages this recklessness in the first place. Perhaps a big and established club needs to disappear to finally get the message across.
I hate the twats but the club has mass amounts of history and it would be a shame to see this happenIt would be a tragedy if a great club with a long tradition like Derby were shut down due to gross negligence from its owners.
I had much sympathy for themBury fans must get annoyed that big clubs get more sympathy than they did.
Which is correct, but you also see nothing wrong with keeping a system that encourages this recklessness in the first place. Perhaps a big and established club needs to disappear to finally get the message across.
Bury fans must get annoyed that big clubs get more sympathy than they did.
More clubs went under before the introduction of the premier league - far more
Ones of Derby’s size?
Its highly unlikely they will - because of their size - and even if they did the first club in the industry of that size suggests the system is hardly broken surely?
Can we keep politics out of this football thread please...especially American politicsMorris is personally responsible for this situation as his multitude of companies own most of the assets connected to the club I. E. Pride park and training ground.
Unfortunately, those assets don’t appear to be parts of DCFC that the administrator can draw on to pay HMRC.
I have some sympathy for the fans, but if the administrator is allowed to reduce the Hmrc bill, then it’s a very wrong president. If that’s the case .... every sports club in the country should apply for a discount on their business tax liabilities
I mean the appalling state of finances in this league would suggest otherwise. Morris only did what he did to chase the top flight dragon and now Derby are seeking to deny the taxpayer the best part of £20 million+.
How many clubs need to be endangered before you consider it a problem?
Do you mean like Woolworths didn’t, House of Fraser didn’t, Debenhams didn’t all those individually threw hundreds out of work.Its highly unlikely they will - because of their size - and even if they did the first club in the industry of that size suggests the system is hardly broken surely?
More clubs went under before the introduction of the premier league - far more
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I can only think of a couple. Remind me who are you thinking of when you refer to far more?
Do you mean like Woolworths didn’t, House of Fraser didn’t, Debenhams didn’t all those individually threw hundreds out of work.
Middlesbrough were liquidated in 1986Well there aren't and if we are being picky clubs such as Charlton - a club with a very big history - went under in the 1980's - the rules were different then but in reality they were bust and locked out their own ground.
You are being over dramatic
But that's the point.What division were Woolworths in when they went under again?
Well there aren't and if we are being picky clubs such as Charlton - a club with a very big history - went under in the 1980's - the rules were different then but in reality they were bust and locked out their own ground.
You are being over dramatic
But if Slowpoke Ltd had debts and was a limited company - then you could be Slowpoke 2021 Ltd without the debts (not quite that simple but effectively the end result)There’s a massive point being missed. Derby’s owner is a multi-millionaire maybe even a billionaire and has the means to pay his businesses bills including tax just like I have to. He might have the business up for sale but that doesn’t prevent his liabilities. If I owe the taxman I have to pay or else.
Let me introduce to the concept of limited companiesThere’s a massive point being missed. Derby’s owner is a multi-millionaire maybe even a billionaire and has the means to pay his businesses bills including tax just like I have to. He might have the business up for sale but that doesn’t prevent his liabilities. If I owe the taxman I have to pay or else.
Nice day in the Sun though, a few ciders and a laugh with other Cov-Mad supporters. Just a shame about the result and manner of the goals if memory serves me right!Stuff like this makes me look back on our journey with a bit of relief. It seems the spending has only gotten worse and clubs are in even more God awful positions than we were. Meanwhile we're chugging along on an upward trajectory whilst being surrounded by chaos. Could all have been a blessing in disguise, didn't feel like it when I watched us lose 2-0 away to Yeovil in league 2 mind you.
"An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility"Let me introduce to the concept of limited companies
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