Did anyone see Eccles (1 Viewer)

SkyBlueAndy1979 · Sep 1, 2024

He probably saw that Allen was coming on thought WTF

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Sep 1, 2024

If Eccles had Sheaf written on the back of his shirt, this thread would be full of ejaculate based on today's performance.

He has been a bit slow to start this year certainly, but from what I saw today was our best player by a mile. Our fans are fucking weird. Actually shameful and incapable of genuine evaluation.

The watchmaker · Sep 1, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
He's Cov kid, and we would all die to be in his position, to wave your arms around and stamp about like a little bitch because he didn't fancy carrying on really fucking grated me.

Cov kid frustrated during that performance. Must have been because he fancied a sit down... bizarre non sequitur.

This idea that we would linch him if he was our big signing from South America - maybe we would. But he is not. He is just some kid that cost nothing and runs his @rse off for his local club. And yet in a team that cost ~£50m he is almost undisputably the best fit midfielder we have - it's not his fault we haven't bought better.

mmttww · Sep 1, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Eccles threw his hands up in a fucking paddy when he saw it was Torp being subbed off, not him

Yeah, this f*cked me right off. Not good enough.

Seamus1 · Sep 1, 2024

I did not see the incident so am not commenting on that. What I will say is that Eccles is no longer a ‘kid’ though. He is 24 years old and has over 120 appearances for Coventry City. He needs to really start stepping up some more to influence games. He just, to me, does not come across as someone who I would think could ever take a game by the scruff of the neck and impose himself

itsabuzzard · Sep 1, 2024

Calista said:
Why are we still making up Josh's thoughts?

Because, incredible though this is, it appears we've got nothing better to do. Plain ridiculous.

harvey098 · Sep 1, 2024

Pusb1 said:
If he was called Fabio Ecchinio and cost 2 million pounds from South America and was putting in these performances he’d be quite rightly slaughtered

I think the total opposite of this. Eccles is undervalued precisely because we didn’t spend £2m

Torp has been 10x worse than Eccles this season but gets a much more lenient time of it because we paid £2m for him so he must be better than Eccles who just happened to be living nearby as a kid.

harvey098 · Sep 1, 2024

The problem the midfield have had this season is movement in front of them. When they get it centrally there are only Simms and Rudoni that they could pass to that would be considered “progressive” passes.

Simms makes no offers and Rudoni never really gets into any interesting pockets so the only option is sideways to the full back to then get it into Haji or Saka. That has been our only way of attacking all season.

The watchmaker · Sep 1, 2024

harvey098 said:
The problem the midfield have had this season is movement in front of them. When they get it centrally there are only Simms and Rudoni that they could pass to that would be considered “progressive” passes.

Simms makes no offers and Rudoni never really gets into any interesting pockets so the only option is sideways to the full back to then get it into Haji or Saka. That has been our only way of attacking all season.

Simms makes runs. Like any striker the amount he makes is proportionate to the likelihood of the ball being played. Playing those balls is not really Eccles' (or Sheaf's) game. That's not their fault, we just haven't had that type of player since Hamer left.

CCFCSteve · Sep 1, 2024

harvey098 said:
The problem the midfield have had this season is movement in front of them. When they get it centrally there are only Simms and Rudoni that they could pass to that would be considered “progressive” passes.

Simms makes no offers and Rudoni never really gets into any interesting pockets so the only option is sideways to the full back to then get it into Haji or Saka. That has been our only way of attacking all season.

Exactly this, it’s the set up. We keep getting overrun in midfield. Eccles had a great first half and Torp was also very good. I reckon Norwich changed something at half time and the two of them were pinned back by a far better press and had to do more and more defensive work. It fits peoples agendas to focus on those two though rather than look at the bigger picture. It was crying out for us to go longer/quicker down the channels and mix it up a bit.

I’m hoping the international break will help Robins/new coaching staff/players to sort this out. We’ve got some decent players but need to find the right system to make it click against certain teams*. It might not necessarily mean moving away from 4-3-3 but players need to understand and deliver their specific roles better

*we’ve seen flashes against Oxford and in pre season

CCFCSteve · Sep 1, 2024

The watchmaker said:
Simms makes runs. Like any striker the amount he makes is proportionate to the likelihood of the ball being played. Playing those balls is not really Eccles' (or Sheaf's) game. That's not their fault, we just haven't had that type of player since Hamer left.

Rudoni and Torp can and should be doing them though. I think it was Torp who put simms through in the first half with a great ball.

Hobo · Sep 1, 2024

Saddlebrains, "He's Cov kid, and we would all die to be in his position, to wave your arms around and stamp about like a little bitch because he didn't fancy carrying on really fucking grated me"

Now not just ITK but a mind-reader too!

Hobo · Sep 1, 2024

Calista said:
We were outnumbered in the middle of the pitch.

What was noticeable was how tightly Norwich marked our midfielders through the middle when we were in possession. Forcing us to pass backwards or out wide.

When they were in possession they moved the ball smartly and looked after it. Nunez no 26 was finding pockets of space all over the place and was dictating the game. He made it look easy, but consistently finding time and space like that is an art as much as a skill.

Covkid1968# · Sep 1, 2024

No way he would want to come off… not doubting the arm waving but it wouldn’t have been frustration at not being subbed.

Skybluekyle · Sep 1, 2024

I think Eccles played well, as did Torp, but we definitely are suffering because of a lack of presence in the middle that these two cannot provide.

I have no doubt we were searching for another midfielder, but they have to be affordable and available, I think it's likely our targets were unaffordable and/or unavailable.

What needs to be remembered is, we were looking in the mould of Ben Sheaf, who is arguably the most complete midfielder in the division. Players like that do not come often or cheap.

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