Do CCFC (not SISU) care about season ticket sales ? (1 Viewer)

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

I'm a season ticket holder. There has at least been a survey on this site as to whether supporters will go / not go/ renew season tickets next season should we leave Coventry.
I've not heard from the club. They could have asked me what has been asked on here . Surely they could have gained the mood of the supporters and the financial implications from that to submit to SISU.
If 5,000 season ticket holders say they will definitely renew irrespective of where we play that has implications on what size stadium we need as much as if only 500 say they'll renew.
The club has absolutely no idea how many will renew and so has no idea how much revenue will be generated. Why don't they simply ask ?
Maybe the sky blue trust could do a survey outside of the Ricoh at the next home game and get some idea. It's not rocket science .

Apologies if this has all been done and I just got missed out.

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 11, 2019

1500 based on percentages on here. Optimistic if you ask me

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm a season ticket holder. There has at least been a survey on this site as to whether supporters will go / not go/ renew season tickets next season should we leave Coventry.
I've not heard from the club. They could have asked me what has been asked on here . Surely they could have gained the mood of the supporters and the financial implications from that to submit to SISU.
If 5,000 season ticket holders say they will definitely renew irrespective of where we play that has implications on what size stadium we need as much as if only 500 say they'll renew.
The club has absolutely no idea how many will renew and so has no idea how much revenue will be generated. Why don't they simply ask ?
Maybe the sky blue trust could do a survey outside of the Ricoh at the next home game and get some idea. It's not rocket science .

Apologies if this has all been done and I just got missed out.

What difference would it make from the club's point of view?

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

so whether its 500 or 5,000 season ticket sales, it makes no difference ?

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
so whether its 500 or 5,000 season ticket sales, it makes no difference ?

It wouldn't make much difference would it if you are being specific to the club. I'm sure they would want more but it's not as if they can suddenly magic a deal.

They will just have to try their best to make the best from a shit position.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

Nick said:
It wouldn't make much difference would it if you are being specific to the club. I'm sure they would want more but it's not as if they can suddenly magic a deal.

They will just have to try their best to make the best from a shit position.

They're not in the least interested then on the impact on season ticket sales then ? So going to Burton upon Trent might attract 400 season tickets whereas Rugby Town might attract 1500, and the financial impact that may have on the club.

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
They're not in the least interested then on the impact on season ticket sales then ? So going to Burton upon Trent might attract 400 season tickets whereas Rugby Town might attract 1500, and the financial impact that may have on the club.

I guess thats what they are trying to figure out by talking to different people to weigh up the options.

There's also the thing of if they throw money at the rugby ground to temporary upgrade and nobody actually turns up.

They will be trying to make the best of a shit situation, I don't envy them.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

Nick said:
I guess thats what they are trying to figure out by talking to different people to weigh up the options.

There's also the thing of if they throw money at the rugby ground to temporary upgrade and nobody actually turns up.

They will be trying to make the best of a shit situation, I don't envy them.

But what effort have they made thus far to try and gauge where fans are on moving to possible grounds. Bugger all. Even if they are still unsure of the final venue they could ask supporters one simple question if nothing else : are you prepared to travel to any stadium outside of Coventry ? They've done nothing. If money means nothing to them then it's news to me.

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
But what effort have they made thus far to try and gauge where fans are on moving to possible grounds. Bugger all. Even if they are still unsure of the final venue they could ask supporters one simple question if nothing else : are you prepared to travel to any stadium outside of Coventry ? They've done nothing. If money means nothing to them then it's news to me.

Hasn't there been a poll about traveling? Pretty sure they can judge it by looking through views.

Doubt it's as simple as "fans want to play in rugby" so will go there.

Will have to see how well they make good of the situation.

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

short answer is no.

100 season ticket holders or 10000, the budget is adjusted accordingly.

They aren't joining the long list of clubs pushing to hit the golden land of the prem by overspending (rightly so) so strategy is making sure club washes it face (again rightly so)

It appears that supporters and on the field activity isn't the owners priority.

Have we ever had a statement from the owners in all the time they have owned us that wasn't down to off the field issues ?

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

It's disappointing to say the least. They could have done this months ago and even used it as a way of putting pressure on Wasps to show they were serious about moving . I don't think they have any idea whatsoever of what the figures are and as far as I can see aren't that bothered .Find somewhere to play and hope fans turn up.
If they have settled on two grounds then it will be based on two main criteria : financial cost to the club in using the stadium and financial implications of drop off gate receipts.

chiefdave · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
They're not in the least interested then on the impact on season ticket sales then ? So going to Burton upon Trent might attract 400 season tickets whereas Rugby Town might attract 1500, and the financial impact that may have on the club.

Not that simple is it? Burton they just turn up and play. Go to Rugby and there's work needed which will also cost.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

ccfcway said:
short answer is no.
100 season ticket holders or 10000, the budget is adjusted accordingly.

It appears that supporters and on the field activity isn't the owners priority.

Have we ever had a statement from the owners in all the time they have owned us that wasn't down to off the field issues ?

I thought the finances of the club were run without interference from SISU. I thought SISU wanted to remove themselves from the running of the club, and wanted us all to believe it
If this is the case is doesn't matter one jot if we all say "fuck the club, I'm not going"

Super Graham Withey · Apr 11, 2019

SISU aren’t interested in the financials. They’re still here screwing us all over out of sheer spite.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

chiefdave said:
Not that simple is it? Burton they just turn up and play. Go to Rugby and there's work needed which will also cost.

Absolutely agree. But surely if there is a vast difference in possible numbers of supportersgoing to one venue against another this has to be taken into account. If it is and it's still not cost effective to go to Rugby because of renovation work then it's a no go. I can understand that completely but they have no idea who will and who won't go here or there. They're not even asking.

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 11, 2019

ccfcway said:
Have we ever had a statement from the owners in all the time they have owned us that wasn't down to off the field issues ?

I think Joy told us about being really emotional after the Checkatrade victory. 1 every 12 years or so isn't bad surely??

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I think Joy told us about being really emotional after the Checkatrade victory. 1 every 12 years or so isn't bad surely??

typical, she turned up at Wembley. Bet she didn't turn up at next home game

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Apr 11, 2019

ccfcway said:
typical, she turned up at Wembley. Bet she didn't turn up at next home game

Probably didn't even pay for her ticket.

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I thought the finances of the club were run without interference from SISU. I thought SISU wanted to remove themselves from the running of the club, and wanted us all to believe it
If this is the case is doesn't matter one jot if we all say "fuck the club, I'm not going"

its likely not going to for the owners. it will effect the budget for on the field activity

Harryshipman1998 · Apr 11, 2019

If only there was someone in a very vert important position at CCFC, who also acts as an hedge fund specialist advisor for SISU. Who seems to have an interest in state aid law who might be able to suggest to owner of both SISU and CCFC that the legal action is causing an issue.
However thinking about it such a person couldn't exist as CCFC are completely different to SISU and CCFC just need to have to sort out the shit situation they have been forced into.

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Harryshipman1998 said:
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If only there was someone in a very vert important position at CCFC, who also acts as an hedge fund specialist advisor for SISU. Who seems to have an interest in state aid law who might be able to suggest to owner of both SISU and CCFC that the legal action is causing an issue.
However thinking about it such a person couldn't exist as CCFC are completely different to SISU and CCFC just need to have to sort out the shit situation they have been forced into.

Do you go to games to support sisu? Oh wait.

You are trying too hard and making it obvious.

chiefdave · Apr 11, 2019

Harryshipman1998 said:
If only there was someone in a very vert important position at CCFC, who also acts as an hedge fund specialist advisor for SISU. Who seems to have an interest in state aid law who might be able to suggest to owner of both SISU and CCFC that the legal action is causing an issue.
However thinking about it such a person couldn't exist as CCFC are completely different to SISU and CCFC just need to have to sort out the shit situation they have been forced into.

Hold the front page. That would mean SISU have recruited someone whose experience matches their requirements for the job.

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

Nick said:
Do you go to games to support sisu? Oh wait.

You are trying too hard and making it obvious.

not sure why you feed the trolls.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

So the club couldn't care less (Tim Fisher I suppose) about how many season tickets they shift . They simply cut the budget accordingly. That's all very well but surely they would like to shift as many tickets as possible for what will be a difficult season next year. If they are not proactive in trying to engage with supporters over a possible move then bollocks to them. If money doesn't bother them then all the arguments that say by not going to watch city you are harming the club doesn't stack up. They're completely indifferent. Come and support us if you like but really we're not that bothered.

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

proof will be in the pudding this time.

First step for me would be making a huge deal of the last home game, getting as many fans there as possible to make a huge point to all in this sorry mess

then I would be all over season ticket holders free coaches, meet and greets etc at the new home ground wherever it may be.

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

ccfcway said:
proof will be in the pudding this time.

First step for me would be making a huge deal of the last home game, getting as many fans there as possible to make a huge point to all in this sorry mess

then I would be all over season ticket holders free coaches, meet and greets etc at the new home ground wherever it may be.

That's the thing, I doubt they have much choice themselves even less to let the fans pick.

The test will be how they deal with it with things like that. You would think with boddy we have seen an improvement so it would be better than when it's left to fisher.

Fergusons_Beard · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So the club couldn't care less (Tim Fisher I suppose) about how many season tickets they shift . They simply cut the budget accordingly. That's all very well but surely they would like to shift as many tickets as possible for what will be a difficult season next year. If they are not proactive in trying to engage with supporters over a possible move then bollocks to them. If money doesn't bother them then all the arguments that say by not going to watch city you are harming the club doesn't stack up. They're completely indifferent. Come and support us if you like but really we're not that bothered.

Am sure they’d love to be playing in a stadium owned by the club and 20K season ticket holders but reality is obviously whole lot different.

Not sure talking with supporters or season ticket holders will change a great deal.

I’ve a feeling CCFC haven’t really much choice-WASPS won’t let them play at the Ricoh and they have several options (yet undecided) for ground share.

Talking with season ticket holders changes nothing.

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Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

The main consensus of opinion seems to be that season tickets really count for nothing . I thought that they counted for a lot in the lower leagues but clearly I'm wrong.

Nick · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
The main consensus of opinion seems to be that season tickets really count for nothing . I thought that they counted for a lot in the lower leagues but clearly I'm wrong.

I think you are assuming ccfc have much of a choice that they can pass on to season ticket holders to choose where the ground share would be.

It was only the other week people were voting for the club to be kicked out the league.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

Nick said:
I think you are assuming ccfc have much of a choice that they can pass on to season ticket holders to choose where the ground share would be.

It was only the other week people were voting for the club to be kicked out the league.

No I haven't suggested supporters chose a stadium,. What I have suggested that it might be in the club's interest to gauge out of, let's say, a final choice of Burton and MK Scum whether there is an overwhelming thumbs up for one over the other. All other costs being equal, why would they chose the one no one wants to go to ?

usskyblue · Apr 11, 2019

Could happen m8. We nearly had text-a-sub

ccfcway · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
No I haven't suggested supporters chose a stadium,. What I have suggested that it might be in the club's interest to gauge out of, let's say, a final choice of Burton and MK Scum whether there is an overwhelming thumbs up for one over the other. All other costs being equal, why would they chose the one no one wants to go to ?

because other costs wont be equal, there will always be a cheaper option

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 11, 2019

Then the cheaper option would have to be considered against potentially catastrophic ticket sales.

itsabuzzard · Apr 11, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
No I haven't suggested supporters chose a stadium,. What I have suggested that it might be in the club's interest to gauge out of, let's say, a final choice of Burton and MK Scum whether there is an overwhelming thumbs up for one over the other. All other costs being equal, why would they chose the one no one wants to go to ?

You're talking a lot of sense. I'm baffled as to why any business wouldn't want to ascertain which course of action would maximise income. Unless, of course, they didn't give a fuck.

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usskyblue · Apr 12, 2019

itsabuzzard said:
You're talking a lot of sense. I'm baffled as to why any business wouldn't want to ascertain which course of action would maximise income. Unless, of course, they didn't give a fuck.

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Yeahh... like a referendum.

What could possibly go wrong m8 ?

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