COV
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Pretty sad that we feel the need to start a thread about this. Fully endorse this agree.I would like to make a simple request to my fellow sky blues. If you are going to the match on saturday, DO NOT boo the knee. Imagine how dabo would feel, if , after him getting racially abused , his own fans refuse to support him and boo an anti racism gesture? If you disagree with taking the knee, that’s your right , fair enough , but please keep your mouth shut to support fankaty if nothing else.
And that is not political?
You're confusing politics meaning “how we should run society” (don’t be racist) with party politics which is what the knuckle draggers mean (It’s left wing Marxism innit).
in the widest sense it’s politics, but in this debate saying it’s poltical aligns you with the knuckle draggers. I’m a massive pedant, but there’s a time and a place to be a smart arse and this ain’t it chief.
I don't agree with the booing but you can't just expect everybody to applaud.This is probably the most depressing post I've ever had to read on this site.
Young talented men take 5 (FIVE!) seconds to show their support for anti-racism, and we have to request that people don't boo them.
We are NOT Milwall. We are better that that.
Don't just NOT boo. Fucking applaud!
Not in the slightest. What I said was that everything is political, not that everything is party political.
Stop trying to use the “it’s political” argument to justify booing the knee when one of our players has just been racially abusedNot in the slightest. What I said was that everything is political, not that everything is party political.
Here is a link to Lyle Taylor spouting off about taking the knee which I think has not helped some Forest fans who imo where the ones booing at our home game.
You may not agree with it. Boo ers or clappers. But either way can show some respect for people's/players/clubs opinions and just keep your gob your shut. Pretty simple.I don't agree with the booing but you can't just expect everybody to applaud.
Stop trying to use the “it’s political” argument to justify booing the knee when one of our players has just been racially abused
In his defence, he hasn't done that.Stop trying to use the “it’s political” argument to justify booing the knee when one of our players has just been racially abused
I don't agree with the booing but you can't just expect everybody to applaud.
Yes in the slightest. You’re being a pedant (I hope) where it’s not needed. This isn’t the place for “ackshually”. Unless you’re a racist.
Stop trying to use the “it’s political” argument to justify booing the knee when one of our players has just been racially abused
I don't know who the numpty is. It's definitely from last season. Was thinking Forest fans were the majority who were booing a gesture, that has in the minds of most, moved on from its BLM roots. Having their star forward expressing these views in recent history will not be helping those fans who have not kept up with or are sceptical about the evolution of the gesture.Who is the numpty in that video after Lyle Taylor talks?
Is it an old video perhaps? We have now gone way past BLM, as clubs and players have clarified the reason they are taking the knee. It's an anti racism stance and not a pro BLM stance.
I'll be very disappointed if that's not an old video.
I shouldn’t have to make this post but felt the need to after quite a few Boos in the away end on tuesday
Probably the most common sense post on this thread.If you really do believe that taking the knee is political that’s your prerogative. Just make sure you’re on the right side of the political divide. ie the one that doesn’t side with racism. In other words if you can’t support taking the knee don’t boo it.
This is a topic is easy on the face of it, racism has no place in society, never did never should. Now, have I heard it, seen it or been on the end of it? many times. But it never changed me, I treat people I meet with respect and judge them on the character, not the colour of skin, race or religion. I believe the majority of us live by the same ethic and agree something has to be done if and when racism is reported.
So on the face of it it's an easy topic majority agree, it has no place.
But this is where I look a bit deeper and look at the gesture and not the cause, as we all know the cause is very important. If you think kneeling by players is a symbolic gestures brought about to highlight a problem, then you have to understand the origins of where and why this gesture is being used.
In my opinion it's very much a symbolic gestures, therefore knowing the origins of it and know it's political connection, I do not support this gesture of the players. As I don't support the political arm these gesture are connected too and were started from, they are very harmful to us all if we want peace as a community.
The cause the players have is true, is worthwhile and should be supported by all. The symbolic gestures in my opinion needs to change, as the connection to politics is very obvious. I would not boo the players as they are free to decide actions taken as individuals. I just wish they can come up with something themselves and severe this connection to an outside political source.
I know this will bother some and anger others. But its just my view and maybe a different angle to why some don't want players to do it and voice it by booing. Others who boo have completely different reasons that they have to life with and defend themselves.
This is a topic is easy on the face of it, racism has no place in society, never did never should. Now, have I heard it, seen it or been on the end of it? many times. But it never changed me, I treat people I meet with respect and judge them on the character, not the colour of skin, race or religion. I believe the majority of us live by the same ethic and agree something has to be done if and when racism is reported.
So on the face of it it's an easy topic majority agree, it has no place.
But this is where I look a bit deeper and look at the gesture and not the cause, as we all know the cause is very important. If you think kneeling by players is a symbolic gestures brought about to highlight a problem, then you have to understand the origins of where and why this gesture is being used.
In my opinion it's very much a symbolic gestures, therefore knowing the origins of it and know it's political connection, I do not support this gesture of the players. As I don't support the political arm these gesture are connected too and were started from, they are very harmful to us all if we want peace as a community.
The cause the players have is true, is worthwhile and should be supported by all. The symbolic gestures in my opinion needs to change, as the connection to politics is very obvious. I would not boo the players as they are free to decide actions taken as individuals. I just wish they can come up with something themselves and severe this connection to an outside political source.
I know this will bother some and anger others. But its just my view and maybe a different angle to why some don't want players to do it and voice it by booing. Others who boo have completely different reasons that they have to live with and defend themselves.
You’re just wrong mate. Kapernick started it not a polticial organisation. No ones angry or upset, just informing you that you’re misinformed and making yourself look a nob.
You answered your question, it's fine you don't see knelling as a symbolic gestures. So you can't possibly connect it to a political group.
It’s not about me. Or you. It’s about the people doing the gesture and they’re very clear on what they mean. But feel free to point me to Julian Dacosta’s fucking manifesto. Idiot.
This is a topic is easy on the face of it, racism has no place in society, never did never should. Now, have I heard it, seen it or been on the end of it? many times. But it never changed me, I treat people I meet with respect and judge them on the character, not the colour of skin, race or religion. I believe the majority of us live by the same ethic and agree something has to be done if and when racism is reported.
So on the face of it it's an easy topic majority agree, it has no place.
But this is where I look a bit deeper and look at the gesture and not the cause, as we all know the cause is very important. If you think kneeling by players is a symbolic gestures brought about to highlight a problem, then you have to understand the origins of where and why this gesture is being used.
In my opinion it's very much a symbolic gestures, therefore knowing the origins of it and know it's political connection, I do not support this gesture of the players. As I don't support the political arm these gesture are connected too and were started from, they are very harmful to us all if we want peace as a community.
The cause the players have is true, is worthwhile and should be supported by all. The symbolic gestures in my opinion needs to change, as the connection to politics is very obvious. I would not boo the players as they are free to decide actions taken as individuals. I just wish they can come up with something themselves and severe this connection to an outside political source.
I know this will bother some and anger others. But its just my view and maybe a different angle to why some don't want players to do it and voice it by booing. Others who boo have completely different reasons that they have to live with and defend themselves.
Agreed. I’ve explained a lot of times that “taking the knee” isn’t to support a career criminalYou’re just wrong mate. Kapernick started it not a polticial organisation. No ones angry or upset, just informing you that you’re misinformed and making yourself look a nob.
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