Grendel
Well-Known Member
Surely they are also discouraged from cerarisn as you need greater resource
It’s not the sort of thing that should be government policy. Midwives in my experiences are generally anti cesarian anyway.
I think it’s a good idea, and I’m not sure it’s any more controversial than capping the voting age at something like 75. At the very least they have a say in the country they have to live their adults lives in.
How do we resource social care without low wage immigration? Come on what is the Daily Mail or right wing think tank solution?I said that illegal immigration was symbolic more than anything. The focus needs to be on reducing low skill, low wage migration and I don’t understand why people of the left would oppose that.
To change the topic slightly because immigration is not a policy priority for me and never has been and probably never will be.
What are you actually dissatisfied with? When we talk about the state of the country, be it the NHS, education and immigration… it doesn’t seem like you want to change anything. Not in a facetious way, I just want to see things from your POV.
that is incredible how have I never seen thisHa he's such a bellend.
This is probably my favourite Farage TV humiliation.
Absolutely two footed him.
I think it’s a great thing to lower the voting ageBearing in mind there is a growing school of thought that suggests youth transition to adulthood & maturity is becoming more & more delayed in modern western nations, I'd suggest allowing 16 year olds a vote is foolish.....
EDIT: ...and thats not meant as a dig at the kids......it’s just the way the modern world/economy/education is shaping them.....
I think it’s a great thing to lower the voting age
Absolutely no reason not to
That would indeed be true. I don’t think you should have an upper cap FWIW, but it’s not reasonable to suggest that lowering the voting age by 2 years is going to turn us into some kind of rogue state.There are hardly any countries that have 16 year old voting abs most that do are South American banana republics
North Korea has 17 though
None have a cap and I assume that you are then saying Jeremy Corbyn shouldn’t stand as he can’t also vote
We want as a society to have an engaged populace this will support itThere is no reason for lowering it - which is why hardly any western democracies have
That would indeed be true. I don’t think you should have an upper cap FWIW, but it’s not reasonable to suggest that lowering the voting age by 2 years is going to turn us into some kind of rogue state.
I see your point about political motivation, but maybe we should be expecting 16 year olds to be more involved in the world around them, and they have a responsibility to take part in society.It’s totally out of sync with other countries and if you do why not make it 12 then? There has to be a political motivation - there is - and you are allowing people to make political decisions at an age they can’t even be considered mature enough to drive
When you have no voice politics don’t include youIt’s totally out of sync with other countries and if you do why not make it 12 then? There has to be a political motivation - there is - and you are allowing people to make political decisions at an age they can’t even be considered mature enough to drive
It’s notIt’s totally out of sync with other countries and if you do why not make it 12 then? There has to be a political motivation - there is - and you are allowing people to make political decisions at an age they can’t even be considered mature enough to drive
We want as a society to have an engaged populace this will support it
Legal Voting Age by Country
In the majority of states, the legal voting age is 18.www.worldatlas.com
Positive in Scotland
But mature enough to have a baby. It frankly all needs equalising out, whether that's up to 18 or down to 16.It’s totally out of sync with other countries and if you do why not make it 12 then? There has to be a political motivation - there is - and you are allowing people to make political decisions at an age they can’t even be considered mature enough to drive
It’s not
But mature enough to have a baby. It frankly all needs equalising out, whether that's up to 18 or down to 16.
They’re not thoughWell yes it is. Like everyone young will be seduced by short term votes - so offer the young free tuition fees and they will say yes please. They have no concerns over interest rates or mortgages - young people can be involved in politics without voting
They’re not though
Remove the vote from over 67s. They don’t pay National Insurance, can’t have kids, can’t join the army, and they’re easily swayed by benefit and house price increases and have no stake in the real economy.
This is fun.
SureProbably because they have better things to do. A lot of people aren’t.
That's like no more like entertaining Mucca tbf!16 year olds will be able to bring so much experience of life to the process.
If living to to the end of a Parliament should be a factor, why not let 13 year olds vote.
It's a load of bollocks really, once they become commodities they get the vote!I know people who had a baby at 14/15, it’s not illegal. These kind of arguments always end up in weird places. One age of majority for everything IMO. Increase the driving age and extend school to 18 properly.
Not in this country no but elsewhere?It’s totally out of sync with other countries and if you do why not make it 12 then? There has to be a political motivation - there is - and you are allowing people to make political decisions at an age they can’t even be considered mature enough to drive
Like I say or should I say let Byng sort it!Interesting. And by interesting I mean massively depressing. Imagine what we could have if we didn’t have to spend billions appeasing NIMBYs
You forget the palm greasing?Like I say or should I say let Byng sort it!
Too much elf and safety enit!!Interesting. And by interesting I mean massively depressing. Imagine what we could have if we didn’t have to spend billions appeasing NIMBYs
Too much elf and safety enit!!
Interesting. And by interesting I mean massively depressing. Imagine what we could have if we didn’t have to spend billions appeasing NIMBYs
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