shmmeee
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Even that was full of silly legal challenges. Euston alone was something like £500m in legal costs for land purchases.
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Even that was full of silly legal challenges. Euston alone was something like £500m in legal costs for land purchases.
skybluetony176
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And the winner of the award for the most swivelled eye response goes to…
why DoNt wE LeT 14 yEaR oLdS vOtE tHeN.
Sick Boy
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For me the tax argument is more for those who are foreign but live, work and pay taxes in the country. Why should I be able to vote in UK but someone who actually lives and pays taxes there can’t?
Grendel
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Not really Tony
You often refer to Eu and its countries of positive examples so who in those counties allows a vote at 16?
Grendel
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But then anyone who lives in the uk and doesn’t pay taxes I assume should be excluded regardless of age?
Sky Blue Pete
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Germany and Belgium
skybluetony176
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They can in council elections but not general elections. Which is stupid. Problem for many born overseas is the cost of getting your UK citizenship with the only real benefit being to vote in the GE. I know someone very well who can’t vote in a general election living in the UK from about 18 months of age (they’re now 45), had all their education in the UK, only speaks English, has one English parent and even works for the government but doesn’t qualify to vote in a GE unless they get UK citizenship. She qualifies automatically because her mother is English so her entitlement isn’t even in question but last time they looked it was about £6K. Her sister who is 3 years younger than her but born in England to the same parents gets a vote in the GE.
Out of interest what voting rights do you get in Italy as an immigrant?
skybluetony176
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Sick Boy
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EU elections only, which I don’t bother doing. I pay both business and personal tax, so think I should have the right to vote.
David O'Day
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Not even local elections?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I’ll defer to the missus who can’t vote on this “I don’t feel like I should until I’m a citizen”.
I agree with you though. If you’ve got settled status (or whatever it’s called) that should be it.
skybluetony176
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What about if you got Italian citizenship? I know you don’t technically need it being Irish but presumably then you’d be free to vote in all Italian elections?
What would be the financial cost? Presumably you could have dual nationality with Ireland so won’t lose your Irish citizenship and passport?
David O'Day
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1 day and Farage has already had a pint thrown in his face.
Flying Fokker
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Nigel Farage hit with milkshake outside pub as he hits campaign trail in Clacton
The Reform UK leader had a drink thrown over him on the first day of his General Election campaign in Clacton-on-Sea.
They ought to throw the book at the stupid cow. No respect anymore for police or politicians, whether you think they talk twaddle or not. Minor incidents like these are security flaws and in the light of both Tory and Labour politicians being murdered the law needs to stamp on twats like her !
torchomatic
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Beautiful.
David O'Day
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a stunning picture of a british electoral tradition
torchomatic
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Banana by the looks of it.
That or a piss shake
David O'Day
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It's a drink fella, calm down.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I see Farage has got a few people rattled across the country and in this thread.
The next few weeks are going to be fun.
The next few weeks are going to be fun.
torchomatic
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Who's rattled? I'm just laughing at him getting a drink chucked over him. I'm pleased he's standing as that will split the Tory vote even more. Happy days.
skybluetony176
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Red wall Tories especially. The excellent Dan Hodges is preempting defections to Reform from the Red wall Tories.
This time, but letting some attention seeker that close is appalling. I know it would delight some but, it could have been acid. As I say, its just another symptom of a growing lack of respect.
skybluetony176
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He clearly means personal tax, ie they’re living and working in said country legally. Not VAT on anything you might purchase on holiday. Why do people keep jumping to extremes that no one meant in the first place as the line of defence. It’s moronic.
Northants Sky Blue
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Anyone who thinks these milkshake stunts are genuine needs their bumps felt.
As Tice conveniently tweets:
As Tice conveniently tweets:
skybluetony176
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Ironically he was hate preaching about school teachers not five minutes before the attack. 1 in 5 school teachers are assaulted a year on average. Maybe if he displayed some respect for for others who are far more vulnerable to personal attacks than he is people might have a bit more sympathy for him.
chiefdave
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The most rattled person seems to be Farage when any journalist dares to ask him a question.
Grendel
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Are you voting for Nigel again Tony?
Sick Boy
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If you live and work in that country you're contributing towards it and deserve to have a say.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Yeah, to be clear, I mean someone who's a permanent resident.
I'm entitled to it and will probably apply within the next year. I think the cost is a couple of hundred Euro in total and I need to do a language test, which is all straightforward - it's then around a 3 year wait.
MalcSB
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Because they have no experience of life and the area of the brain responsible for judgement literally has not formed fully yet. If a 16 year old can’t be trusted to sell me a lottery ticket when I am clearly old enough, they can’t be trusted with a vote
And 16 year olds can’t work full time, they need to be in education.
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