Do you want to discuss boring politics? (9 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

No, it wasn't racist. It was culturist. Nothing in what he wrote in any inferred that Muslims were an inferior race. Inferior culture maybe, but not race.

Your profile picture is horrifying. Everytime I look at it it sends a shiver down my spine haha

 

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[Deleted member 9744]

Genuinely don’t see the problem with Johnson’s comments. The guy is clearly a racist as most from his background are, but his article was a defence of burka wearing in the spirit of classic liberalism.

Goldsmiths campaign was disgusting though, and some of the attitudes of newer MPs are very concerning.

Think you might feel differently if you were affected by his comments

https://www.google.com/urlsa=t&sour...d Muslim women to ‘letterboxes’, figures show

 

[shmmeee]

Nothing wrong with comparisons to burglars and letterboxes? Wow

Not really in context. No different to saying nuns look like penguins or whatever. His entire point is that may be what he thinks but it’s their right to wear what they want.

But I don’t get precious about word play and analogies so YMMV.

 

[Grendel]

The state of this 'apology' from Johnson.

'I'll continue to be racist I just won't do it so publicly while I'm PM'

The comments are not racist at all though

 

[fatso]

No, it wasn't racist. It was culturist. Nothing in what he wrote in any inferred that Muslims were an inferior race, if indeed you believe that race is other than a social construct. Islam as a inferior culture maybe, but not 'race'.

Yea, I thought Islam was a religion, not a race.
But I guess that doesnt fit some peoples narrative.

 

[Grendel]

Yea, I thought Islam was a religion, not a race.
But I guess that doesnt fit some peoples narrative.

The much overblown piccanniny watermelon smile thing was not racist either

 

[shmmeee]

The much overblown piccanniny watermelon smile thing was not racist either

Ah, you went too far. That was definitely racist, the word alone is racist.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

The much overblown piccanniny watermelon smile thing was not racist either

Are you serious?

 

[shmmeee]

Think you might feel differently if you were affected by his comments

https://www.google.com/urlsa=t&sour...d Muslim women to ‘letterboxes’, figures show

Not really. There were 30 more incidents compared to the previous week but as a whole street harassment of Muslims was lower in 2018 than 2017. A one week spike doesn’t prove causation at all.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not really in context. No different to saying nuns look like penguins or whatever. His entire point is that may be what he thinks but it’s their right to wear what they want.

But I don’t get precious about word play and analogies so YMMV.

If people call Muslims ‘letterboxes’ in school we suspend them

 

[Grendel]

Ah, you went too far. That was definitely racist, the word alone is racist.

So is big white chief and big white jet

 

[shmmeee]

So is big white chief and big white jet

OK Brendan. Except “white” isn’t racist in isolation but “picaninny” is.

 

[Grendel]

Are you serious?

He was accusing Anthony Charles Lynton Blair of being the white imperialist looking down on his black flock as he gurned around the Congo looking for cheap deals. It was a swipe at colonialism

 

[shmmeee]

If people call Muslims ‘letterboxes’ in school we suspend them

Im not sure I’d want to live in a country that ran according to a secondary school behaviour policy TBH.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He was accusing Anthony Charles Lynton Blair of being the white imperialist looking down on his black flock as he gurned around the Congo looking for cheap deals. It was a swipe at colonialism

Yes and the term he used was still racist. You are becoming a parody of yourself.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Im not sure I’d want to live in a country that ran according to a secondary school behaviour policy TBH.

I didn’t say people should go to prison for it. Just that I’m not comfortable comparing Muslims to letterboxes and burglars. If you are, you do you

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He was accusing Anthony Charles Lynton Blair of being the white imperialist looking down on his black flock as he gurned around the Congo looking for cheap deals. It was a swipe at colonialism

Two can play the full name game

Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson
Gideon Osborne
‘Call me Dave’ Cameron

 

[PVA]

The much overblown piccanniny watermelon smile thing was not racist either

For fuck sake.

There is nothing you won't defend him for.

Embarrassing.

 

[Grendel]

Yes and the term he used was still racist. You are becoming a parody of yourself.

No he was parodying Blair

Boris Johnson and the 'piccaninny' smear | The Spectator

Boris Johnson likes to call black people 'piccaninnies’. Everyone’s saying it. Even Stormzy said it this week in his endorsement of Jeremy Corbyn. It is ‘criminally dangerous’ to give the keys of Downing Street back to a man who refers to ‘black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon...

www.google.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No he was parodying Blair

Boris Johnson and the 'piccaninny' smear | The Spectator

Boris Johnson likes to call black people 'piccaninnies’. Everyone’s saying it. Even Stormzy said it this week in his endorsement of Jeremy Corbyn. It is ‘criminally dangerous’ to give the keys of Downing Street back to a man who refers to ‘black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon...

www.google.co.uk

How many PMs have been sacked for dishonesty from previous jobs?

 

[Grendel]

Two can play the full name game

Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson
Gideon Osborne
‘Call me Dave’ Cameron

The funniest today was that fool Femi spouting utter drivel about the rather unpleasant black version of Tommy Robinson who was shot in the head and saying she was a key member of BLM and had death threats and couldn’t really believe the police implying she wasn’t targeted as a shot in the head.

To give her some kind of curious legitimacy he also skilled in she was “Oxford educated”

 

[Grendel]

How many PMs have been sacked for dishonesty from previous jobs?

Most haven’t had jobs

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No he was parodying Blair

Boris Johnson and the 'piccaninny' smear | The Spectator

Boris Johnson likes to call black people 'piccaninnies’. Everyone’s saying it. Even Stormzy said it this week in his endorsement of Jeremy Corbyn. It is ‘criminally dangerous’ to give the keys of Downing Street back to a man who refers to ‘black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon...

www.google.co.uk

Yes but is the term racist or not

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The funniest today was that fool Femi spouting utter drivel about the rather unpleasant black version of Tommy Robinson who was shot in the head and saying she was a key member of BLM and had death threats and couldn’t really believe the police implying she wasn’t targeted as a shot in the head.

To give her some kind of curious legitimacy he also skilled in she was “Oxford educated”

Ah, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

 

[Grendel]

Yes but is the term racist or not

well you think letter box is - it isn’t and it’s to create debate

 

[Ccfcisparks]

well you think letter box is - it isn’t and it’s to create debate

Is the term "Pickaninny Watermelon Smiles" racist?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

well you think letter box is - it isn’t and it’s to create debate

I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment

 

[Evo1883]

If people call Muslims ‘letterboxes’ in school we suspend them

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment

Have you not got the memo we are calling or MP's and former MP's by their full name, so that is Jeremy Bernard Corbyn to you.

 

[Grendel]

Is the term "Pickaninny Watermelon Smiles" racist?

Yes that’s why he said it. He was projected it as thoughts of the supreme white leader Anthony Charles Lynton Blair not his own - read the whole article and that becomes clear

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well funnily enough if someone called a Muslim in my class a letterbox or a burglar and I did nothing I’d probably get hauled up in front of senior management

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Yes that’s why he said it. He was projected it as thoughts of the supreme white leader Anthony Charles Lynton Blair not his own - read the whole article and that becomes clear

So is that you admitting that Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson has made racist comments in the past?

 

[Evo1883]

Well funnily enough if someone called a Muslim in my class a letterbox or a burglar and I did nothing I’d probably get hauled up in front of senior management

That's the correct answer

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That's the correct answer

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[Evo1883]

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Suspended because senior management demand it not because its the correct thing to do .

Education not punishment at such a young age