MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Goes to show fact is stranger than fiction.
The future reaction of Labour MPs/ constituencies to similar proposals will be interesting.
Goes to show fact is stranger than fiction.Discussing if Reform/Tories are far right is so passé, the question is are the Greens left wing?
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400 seats isn’t a bad result. Reduced number of votes is what is bad whilst increase for Le Pen is great*.
Have you never heard of Momentum?
* your word, not mine
Goes to show fact is stranger than fiction.
The future reaction of Labour MPs/ constituencies to similar proposals will be interesting.
Well thats the South West all powered up then. Blackouts to come in the North West?Build it all in Lib Dem and Green seats. Sorted.
Well thats the South West all powered up then. Blackouts to come in the North West?
He operates on headlines and avoids detail as he has no understanding of them. He gains all his views from twitter.
He will now look at momentum and think you are referring to Jon Lansman
"no one cares about parties"
Stick it all in Blackburn.
The French situation is going to get very messy, & not just for the French, but the EU will be shitting their corrupt neo-liberal pants too......
...I think we may well see more than one Olympic flame in Paris this summer......
Yeah the hard left love a good riot
Point being?You have UK tunnel vision
Is, year's ago now Windrush too strong,the cost both human and economic?You’re talking about execution. I’m talking about making it a focal point of their campaign. Much of their voter base moved to reform primarily because of immigration. To suggest it wasn’t strategically the right move to focus on this is silly
All those things you mention were only let through because the metrics told them it was just too unpopular. Gay marriage was opposed by them for years, people like Hunt have been arguing for a US based healthcare system for years and have snuck privatisation in everywhere - it's just they know it would be political suicide to say it out loud. Similarly they've been against legislation controlling banks and financial institutions and only brought (watered down) measures through because of the absolute shitfest they made leading to global downturns. Environmental protection - don't make me laugh. We had clean waterways until the Tories came in and now they're lifeless and full of shit.You’re taking one seemingly extreme part of their campaign (realistically they didn’t actually send anyone to Rwanda did they) and pretending that that’s representative of their whole manifesto.
In reality they knew it was a major factor for their voter base so they responded accordingly. That aside they are socially pretty centrist (legalised same sex marriage, maintain public healthcare, maintain social welfare), as well as economically (progressive taxation, publicly funded education, intervention in financial services and environmental protection).
Getting all wound up because they doubled down on their (ineffective) hard line immigration policy because that’s obviously what their voter base wanted (see: all the bloody votes that went to reform) doesn’t make them an extreme right party.
If people honestly can’t see that then there’s no hope
Nobody had executing immigrants in their manifesto, did they?You’re talking about execution. I’m talking about making it a focal point of their campaign. Much of their voter base moved to reform primarily because of immigration. To suggest it wasn’t strategically the right move to focus on this is silly
Streeting is meeting the Junior doctors tomorrow, wonder what he's going to be able to offer them given their approach to spending?
Discussing if Reform/Tories are far right is so passé, the question is are the Greens left wing?
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I can guarantee he'll be playing tough guy to show how much of a serious politician he is, little wanker
The 300,000 new homes magically shrunk to 14,000? Over what period?
there is not going to be any austerity, if you think there is I have a bridge i'd love to sell youWelcome to 2010
Rachel Reeves says new government has inherited ‘worst set of circumstances since second world war’ – as it happened
New chancellor says she will make statement to MPs before summer recess about financial situation as she says UK economy has been ‘held back’www.theguardian.com
He's mixing up a future target with something happening nowWhat?
Are you on about the 4 housing developments they’ve approved?
Presumably that’s additional every year on top of the previous year. That would put us on almost 300K a year by the end of the current parliament. To put that into some sort of context if they can deliver an extra 14k year on year that would be an 13,100 extra homes than the Tories delivered in terms of growth last year. The Tories figure of annual house building has been as low as 125K new homes a year to a high of 245K in 2019, since Covid we’ve struggled to build much more than 200K a year. Partly due to a skills shortage following something else that happened in 2020. Which is why we relaxed immigration rules for construction workers last year.The 300,000 new homes magically shrunk to 14,000? Over what period?
The plan/ promise is to build 1,500,000 new homes over the next 5 years (parliament), not be be building at a rate of 300,000 per year (or 1.5 million per 5 years) by the end of that period.Presumably that’s additional every year on top of the previous year. That would put us on almost 300K a year by the end of the current parliament. To put that into some sort of context if they can deliver an extra 14k year on year that would be an 13,100 extra homes than the Tories delivered in terms of growth last year. The Tories figure of annual house building has been as low as 125K new homes a year to a high of 245K in 2019, since Covid we’ve struggled to build much more than 200K a year. Partly due to a skills shortage following something else that happened in 2020. Which is why we relaxed immigration rules for construction workers last year.
I’m on about the new chancellors response to a question.What?
Are you on about the 4 housing developments they’ve approved?
there is not going to be any austerity, if you think there is I have a bridge i'd love to sell you
Corbyn's backing group?Have you never heard of Momentum?
Future targets are met by doing things now.He's mixing up a future target with something happening now
BBC haven’t given the detail then, but even then it wasn’t an answer to the question. I should really bear in mind that Labour politicians are still politicians.Where she gave an example of applications the govt has already approved? Thats the only mention of 14000 in the whole thing I can see.
Thanks, that’s helpfulWhere she gave an example of applications the govt has already approved? Thats the only mention of 14000 in the whole thing I can see.
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