Brighton Sky Blue
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Yes because we are morphing into a tribute act to the USA where they really do elect a person to lead rather than a government. Turning elections into personality contests is the whole problem
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Yes because we are morphing into a tribute act to the USA where they really do elect a person to lead rather than a government. Turning elections into personality contests is the whole problem
Grendel
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Im sure as an independent country it would really be appealing
Grendel
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I don’t see it as a problem and it’s been that way for 50 years
Brighton Sky Blue
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They rewarded Drakeford for doing his job properly despite him having zero charisma or personal charm. The UK is on borrowed time as a state anyway, it’ll probably be in 4 separate states in my lifetime
Brighton Sky Blue
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I do and am pretty sick of it
Grendel
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more rubbish
Grendel
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For context
yougov.co.uk
How well is Keir Starmer doing as Labour leader?
Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?
yougov.co.uk
Brighton Sky Blue
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It isn’t though.
Northern Ireland has been properly shat on by Brexit and the DUP look like they will be out at the next set of elections. Support for a united Ireland there is the highest it’s ever been-only a few decades away.
Scotland will keep electing SNP governments because the unionist vote is split. When one of these two take the plunge the other would follow soon after. Really then what is keeping Wales attached to the permanent Tory rump that is England?
Hopefully it happens while still in my working life
Grendel
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It is rubbish. Wales don’t want independence that’s why they don’t oddly vote for the independent choice
Not all SNP voters vote for independence and when the economic scrutiny during a campaign in Scotland starts again sturgeon and her mob will flounder
Brighton Sky Blue
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They don’t vote for it now. In a scenario where it’s just them and England left? I never knew a single SNP supporter who was opposed to independence
Ian1779
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Momentum is no more of an issue than Mandelson.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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No more than the head of a business that has flagrantly flouted H&S laws and cut corners resulting in workers being injured or becoming ill. It's called accountability. Maybe locking up is a bit far, but compensation for those involved (with culpability) , removal from office and never being allowed to hold such a position of authority again.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Well if that's the case isn't it about time we separated the personality of voting for a PM from the policy involved in governing? If it's just a popularity contest why both with any policy at all.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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When the economic scrutiny was done for Brexit it was shown to be a shitshow. Remind me how that vote went?
Grendel
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The public decide
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I also see we've had a hasty press release that we're going to build a new naval vessel. Something to make sure the flag wavers are happy. HMS Deflection.
Grendel
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It wasn’t despite the lies of immediate economic earthquake the day after the vote was announced - also as Sturgeon was so opposed to Brexit her problem if she then applies the same argument to leaving the union
We should allow it but not on timings just to suit her and make the country aware what terms they will go on - WTO and immediate currency withdrawal
Grendel
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Deflect from what?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So the total opposite of Brexit then?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Which hole have you been hiding in?
Same reason Boris got married in a massive rush. Deflect from Cummings.
Grendel
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In terms of Brexit both parties needed to negotiate as the impact on the Eu budget was substantial
In this case we don’t need to. Tell Scotland it’s pound gone and WTO on day one and immediate fund withdrawal
Watch Krankie squirm
Grendel
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No one cares about Cummings who back him anyway
Polling suggests it's stuck for this week anyway.
Most of the points he made were referenced/questioned in this thread or the other one , about Foreign office , mendacious Matt ,Shapps transport dept advice etc , slow off the mark, disregard for the scientific advice for the circuit breaker where five weeks elapsed before the tiered preference of the PM left London in tier 2 while most of the country was in 3, notwithstanding the failure to react to the situation in India adequately now risking vaccine efficacy, opening up,.
The loopholes in international travel and failed quarantine procedures.
Sky Blue Pete
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Rubbish no you wouldn’t
As for other countries in Europe, or anywhere in the world for that matter, having a higher deaths per population figure - how many of them have the benefit of being an island?
An incredible advantage that we absolutely fucked. If you did a league table of island nations only it does not reflect well on the UK.
An incredible advantage that we absolutely fucked. If you did a league table of island nations only it does not reflect well on the UK.
Grendel
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TBF that is now the party in power is it not?
Completely morphed, expulsion of members on the remain side etc.
Grendel
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The island mentality and stopping freedom of movement is what PVA sees as a benefit.
Quite the opposite on both counts old chum.
In the EU thread Grendel told me I'm racist because I'm pro freedom of movement and he's not racist because he's anti freedom of movement
