fernandopartridge
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Yeah, they will. Only right that the principle is extended to VED surely?
Yeah, they will. Only right that the principle is extended to VED surely?They will be paying much more in fuel taxes anyway won't they?
Plenty of normal people need to drive a fair bit.
‘It is just like giving to charity’.How can you somehow be more punchable than any of the Tory cabinet members that have preceded you?
No they haven't, but they do that predominately because we, the West, are buying it. So if we care about the planet we should stop doing that to make them stop polluting.We've hit peak insanity on this thread.
How can someone seriously say India and China aren't some of the worst countries in the world for how they treat the planet? It is pretty obvious no one on here has ever been to these places. The figures only back up they attitudes they have towards the environment, and it isn't just the size of them, they've got no interest in the welfare and future of the planet.
As for it being 'racist'? Fuck me.
No they haven't, but they do that predominately because we, the West, are buying it. So if we care about the planet we should stop doing that to make them stop polluting.
While they don't care about the planet it appears neither to we. They don't for economic growth, we don't for cheap tat.
Yeah, they will. Only right that the principle is extended to VED surely?
VED is nothing to do with roads any more, it’s not a hypothecated tax and why it’s no longer called Road fund tax. BEVs are paying no VED and, if charged at home, very small taxation on fuel. So, road pricing on BEVs or dropping all other fuel taxes and charging road pricing on all vehicles would be fair and equitable. Leaving VED and current fuel taxes on ICE vehicles and sticking road pricing on top would be punitive and worthy of public protest. Especially if there is no improvement in the state of the roads.Yeah, they will. Only right that the principle is extended to VED surely?
Ah to save the NHS?Whatever next. Still, all the resultant closed pubs could be used for housing.
Labour considering crackdown on pub opening hours, minister says
But a Department for Health spokesman said it is ‘categorically untrue’ that the government is considering such measureswww.independent.co.uk
Could you tell him I have a bridge to sell?A Tory friend of mine who has voted for the party his whole life, and who often said he wants ‘people like him’ to be banned from immigrating here, has now declared his switch to Labour.
Why? Because he fully supports cutting the WFP and thinks ‘Rachel Reeves has done her sums and I trust her’. Mission accomplished?
So how isn't it targeting normal people when they are already paying 50 odd pence per litre of fuel?
Maybe people with more kids can start paying more tax to cover their education. People who go to the doctors more pay more for that?
@Nick should be all over itChange they said
How much longer will alcohol be on sale to drink at home?Ah to save the NHS?
He’s probably bought it alreadyCould you tell him I have a bridge to sell?
Erm, I'm not sure I'm getting the 'pay more tax for those who have kids' thing.
There's a really simple choice here.
You have a birth rate that supports current population levels, you have immigration to maintain population levels, or you have an increasingly elderly and diminishing population (ultimately that means no one to left to look after you or your kids when they get old).
Which of those three options do you prefer?
(That leaves aside the argument that the vast majority of kids will end up paying forty or more years of income tax themselves of course. I'm sorry, but if you think educated children are a burden to society, then politely, you're not thinking.)
Robots. Good British robots.
If they come out against foreigners and the bone idle will you change your view?They won't.
If they come out against foreigners and the bone idle will you change your view?
On the party.My view on what?
Will see what actions are taken...
It's a good solution, but everyone knows we'd just end up with cheap Chinese daleks that couldn't even get up the stairs.
Anyone who didn't live in a bungalow would eventually starve to death in their bed, covered in their own mess. That's probably how I'll go, in fairness.
On the party.
The disconnect from so many trump supporters and reform or anti labour or Tory voters maybe establishment is incredibleJust wrap the migrants in tin foil…
Breakfast clubs not for the working man?Again will see what's actually done and changed...
The party for the working man is doing fuck all for the working man at the minute.
Would there be enough work age people if the 1.4 million unemployed and 2.8 million long term “sick” actually had to work for a living?The disconnect from so many trump supporters and reform or anti labour or Tory voters maybe establishment is incredible
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Pensioners annoyed that their pension is treated as an income. Huh? Like forever!!
Annoyed at paying for breakfast clubs but also anti immigration without connecting not enough work age people to find their pension so would be good to try something
Climate change is a hoax as is fluoride toxic and poisoning everyone and vaccines have killed thousands of young athletes literally dying in school
I know I get many things wrong but at least I try and look across evidence base and listen to different voices
I never got an answer when I asked if millionaires children would be entitled if attending state primary schools.Breakfast clubs not for the working man?
The disconnect from so many trump supporters and reform or anti labour or Tory voters maybe establishment is incredible
This morning seen
Pensioners annoyed that their pension is treated as an income. Huh? Like forever!!
Annoyed at paying for breakfast clubs but also anti immigration without connecting not enough work age people to find their pension so would be good to try something
Climate change is a hoax as is fluoride toxic and poisoning everyone and vaccines have killed thousands of young athletes literally dying in school
I know I get many things wrong but at least I try and look across evidence base and listen to different voices
CourseWould there be enough work age people if the 1.4 million unemployed and 2.8 million long term “sick” actually had to work for a living?
AgreedThink you need some time off Twitter!
I never got an answer when I asked if millionaires children would be entitled if attending state primary schools.
Has this been costed yet ? I don’t believe it has?
You keep banging on about 2.8 million long term sick with zero context. To give it some context at any given time in the UK something like 3 million people have cancer and that figure is rising. The majority of which will be of working age. That’s just one serious illness that is a genuine reason to be long term sick. Your obsession with the long term sick is baffling.Would there be enough work age people if the 1.4 million unemployed and 2.8 million long term “sick” actually had to work for a living?
Universal free school meals guarantees that nobody falls through the cracks and removes the stigma of being an FSM child. Would rather a kid get a decent lunch who doesn’t need it than have someone need it and go without.I never got an answer when I asked if millionaires children would be entitled if attending state primary schools.
Has this been costed yet ? I don’t believe it has?
In terms of unemployed, I am taking your 1% of 4.2 % to act7ally be equal to 25% of the unemployed, say 350,000.You keep banging on about 2.8 million long term sick with zero context. To give it some context at any given time in the UK something like 3 million people have cancer and that figure is rising. The majority of which will be of working age. That’s just one serious illness that is a genuine reason to be long term sick. Your obsession with the long term sick is baffling.
That 1.4 million unemployment rate you keep banging on about too. Only about 1% of the 4.2% rate is long term unemployed, the vast majority of that 1.4 million are between jobs. There’s a conveyor belt of short term unemployed in that figure and there is always going to be.
That’s a real double standard I’m afraid to the point of hypocrisy. Are all children going to get free school meals?Universal free school meals guarantees that nobody falls through the cracks and removes the stigma of being an FSM child. Would rather a kid get a decent lunch who doesn’t need it than have someone need it and go without.
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