Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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She accidentally sent him her notes for the interview so decided to cancel.
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fernandopartridge
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Ironically, lots of the most fervent oil supporters would hate the idea that it basically pays for an Islamic theocracy
And the fact is our ( the west's) medaling has produced this scenario IMO!
Skybluekyle
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It's good to see "assisted dying" is back on the Parliamentary agenda. It's obviously a very hard and emotive subject, but we need to seriously think about this.
Of course, safeguarding measures need to be carefully assessed and introduced, but also a serious discussion needs to be had on the subject.
I personally think we should have assisted dying, with incredibly strict safeguarding measures in place, but appreciate wider views, as it is difficult and discussion should be free and open.
Of course, safeguarding measures need to be carefully assessed and introduced, but also a serious discussion needs to be had on the subject.
I personally think we should have assisted dying, with incredibly strict safeguarding measures in place, but appreciate wider views, as it is difficult and discussion should be free and open.
shmmeee
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Friend of my GFs family in the Netherlands just did it (assisted dying). They had a sending off party. All seemed quite nice tbh. I certainly want to go before dementia or similar gets me. It’s my biggest fear and would suck down any inheritance I build up for the kids.
If it's asked for and received a terminal diagnosis and saves suffering I'm with you, not forgetting we're all probably going to end with some form of disease, and then the Human condition is to survive, so no mandatory implementation either,no way on that ever, just the bravest one's who make the decision.
What it could lead to in the future doesn't bare thinking about for instance a switch away from healthcare to other spheres of activity could become paramount in the future but we can't and shouldn't go down that particular route ever, unless you're some kind of meddling freak!
shmmeee
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If you still think this is about corruption I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
For clarity this is a story about Rayner paying for her own holiday and whilst on holiday being invited to DJ and declaring the value of that invite. No doubt MalcSB and Nick will be along to tell us how it’s absolutely disgraceful that MPs are allowed near decks or something.
For clarity this is a story about Rayner paying for her own holiday and whilst on holiday being invited to DJ and declaring the value of that invite. No doubt MalcSB and Nick will be along to tell us how it’s absolutely disgraceful that MPs are allowed near decks or something.
Ian1779
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Having the done the same and forgetting to cancel in 2018,2019,2020,2021 and 2022
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Angela's not gonna shag you m8.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I would like to see us concentrate more on quality or life rather than quantity quite so much, but I guess it's easier to work out how to keep a person alive, much harder to keep them well in older age.
Ah Shucks, come on telling us she's been sniffing Powder next?
chiefdave
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I think anyone who has, or had, a relative with dementia would be very much on the side of this needing to happen.
chiefdave
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how the fuck have the come up with £836 as a value for being invited to DJ?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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My first thought was that it is about the current exchange rate to 1000 euros.
Hmmm,new name to focus on .
Niel reckord ( spelling dubious life president of such and such self declared I think,president institute of economic affairs ,and some other think tank for the right, been donating here and there mostly on climate change denial,lz Truss followed his mantra and failed, now it seems he's getting behind Bad in noch,sharing an address out his home so the loonies Will probably pick her for leader for more of the same!!
Niel reckord ( spelling dubious life president of such and such self declared I think,president institute of economic affairs ,and some other think tank for the right, been donating here and there mostly on climate change denial,lz Truss followed his mantra and failed, now it seems he's getting behind Bad in noch,sharing an address out his home so the loonies Will probably pick her for leader for more of the same!!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Would love to see a similar study done but for turning off ‘socials’ entirely. I’d like to think it would generally improve the quality of our political discourse and mend a few divides.
duffer
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For clarity, it wasn't exactly an invitation, it was paid for. In essence, it seems the DJ charges for the "invitation" to be on the decks with him. As such, like it or not, it's a paid for gift - the DJ was paid by his agency for her to be "invited".
Now you're either in favour of politicians getting gifts and freebies, or you're not.
You can't really complain about the other side making hay out of this when, Starmer et al were making such a big deal about cleaning up politics.
As far as I'm concerned, any story that makes any politician from any side think twice about what they should and shouldn't accept, is a good thing.
I couldn't care less that this hurts Starmer and Labour, maybe now he'll take actions that back up his words.
Angela Rayner’s Ibiza DJ booth party revealed as £836 freebie
Revelation comes as Sir Keir Starmer’s government continues to face criticism over ministerial donations
www.independent.co.uk
MalcSB
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The government will be taking a fair chunk. I thought you didn’t believe in accumulated wealth.
MalcSB
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The fact Starmer is paying back some of his gifts is a bit like going back to a shop and paying for what you shoplifted a month ago - a tacit admission that you have done wrong and are trying to put it right. The crime of shoplifting has still been committed though.For clarity, it wasn't exactly an invitation, it was paid for. In essence, it seems the DJ charges for the "invitation" to be on the decks with him. As such, like it or not, it's a paid for gift - the DJ was paid by his agency for her to be "invited".
Now you're either in favour of politicians getting gifts and freebies, or you're not.
You can't really complain about the other side making hay out of this when, Starmer et al were making such a big deal about cleaning up politics.
As far as I'm concerned, any story that makes any politician from any side think twice about what they should and shouldn't accept, is a good thing.
I couldn't care less that this hurts Starmer and Labour, maybe now he'll take actions that back up his words.
Angela Rayner’s Ibiza DJ booth party revealed as £836 freebie
Revelation comes as Sir Keir Starmer’s government continues to face criticism over ministerial donations
Grendel
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This will prove interesting if the Jollyy Green Twat has his way
www.telegraph.co.uk
Diesel car sales outpace electric amid ‘flawed’ net zero targets
Carmakers urge Chancellor to overhaul green mandate as EV uptake falters
www.telegraph.co.uk
MalcSB
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ONS: Hundreds of staff vote to strike over office return
Office for National Statistics workers have been refusing to return to the office for 40% of shifts.
www.bbc.co.uk
Will we notice? Will we care? Some salaries saved, let them stay on strike indefinitely,
shmmeee
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Why would you think that? I believe in inheritance tax, I also believe in property tax and yet own a house
MalcSB
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The EV “sales” figures are flawed. Manufacturers are registering them, storing and selling at hugely discounted prices 6 months to 2 years later. This is destroying residuals and making used car dealers reluctant to take EVs in.This will prove interesting if the Jollyy Green Twat has his way
Diesel car sales outpace electric amid ‘flawed’ net zero targets
Carmakers urge Chancellor to overhaul green mandate as EV uptake falters
shmmeee
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ONS: Hundreds of staff vote to strike over office return
Office for National Statistics workers have been refusing to return to the office for 40% of shifts.www.bbc.co.uk
Will we notice? Will we care? Some salaries saved, let them stay on strike indefinitely,
Who needs facts?
shmmeee
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The fact is if he’d done what every Tory MP does and just not declare and not apologise you’d have no issues.
MalcSB
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
The stats can still be worked out later
I hope those “based” in London have had their weighting allowance stopped,
MalcSB
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Do two wrongs make a right?
Part of the issue here are the pledges made before the election to clean up this sort of stuff. More Labour lies as they carefully carried the Ming vase.
Grendel
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Yes and manufacturers are offering huge discounted support to retailers to try and get rid of them
shmmeee
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It’s not two wrongs. It’s a wrong and a right and a moving of the goalposts.
Starmer looks bad because he declares things others don’t. This will just lead to fewer MPs declaring because it’s more trouble than it’s worth. Which is probably the point of the attacks other than the obvious political reasons.
The last three months have been nothing but Tories acting shocked that Labour is either doing stuff they did or that they forced them into. We’ve been calling this set up for years and yet still when it happened everyone fell for it.
My Twitter feed is full of righties outraged about the Chagos Islands, including the bloke who did the negotiations to give it away! (Cleverly). It’s just all so disingenuous and designed to erode trust in politics. He declares it: bad. He doesn’t: bad. He pays it back: bad. It’s just pathetic at this point.
MalcSB
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Surely the answer is - just don’t take it in the first place. I’d that’s where we get to then the ire will have been worth it,
shmmeee
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
The stats can still be worked out later
I hope those “based” in London have had their weighting allowance stopped,
How dare the proles get a decent wage?
shmmeee
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Sure if that’s what you want but that’s fuck all to do with Starmer who has far fewer dodgy donations and gifts than every PM in my lifetime and has declared more of them.
I said before I’d be happy to change the rules, but to demand someone steps down or is admonished for following the rules is just frothing nonsense.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Would sure love to only have to go in 40% of the time…ONS: Hundreds of staff vote to strike over office return
Office for National Statistics workers have been refusing to return to the office for 40% of shifts.www.bbc.co.uk
Will we notice? Will we care? Some salaries saved, let them stay on strike indefinitely,