MalcSB
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It’s their attitude to food and the way children are educated about it, pretty strict meal times etc.
It’s their attitude to food and the way children are educated about it, pretty strict meal times etc.Don’t they also still smoke fairly heavily? That is a known appetite suppressant also, though the other lifestyle factors probably play a role.
lol true it’s similar thenIt isn’t as people are ignorant of what these drugs actually do
Those dishes and big portions have been normal for a long time. You could probably start just by reducing the portion sizes of these meals.I think a high calorie and high fat diet was normal for people who were involved in heavy manual labour work. Those jobs have gone, everyone is more sedentary now but the traditional diet has remained.
It really doesn’t take long to batch cook. Is it laziness and the desire for instant gratification plus lack of education.
When we stayed in Munich and went to a few beer gardens it struck me how families reserved whole tables and each person just nursed their litre of beer for the evening. If you sold beer by the litre over here it’d be carnage.It’s their attitude to food and the way children are educated about it, pretty strict meal times etc.
The first part already exists, its tiers 1-3 of the NHS weight management service. Consultant I spoke to put the failure rate of this approach at over 99% in people who were concerned enough about their health enough to have navigated the system to the point they can access those services.Educate people on how weight gain and loss really work then make it much easier to self exclude yourself from junk food facilitators.
How would you implement the second part? Its everywhere. When I started work back in the 90s I wouldn't go past a single 'fast food' place on the way to the office, let alone a drive through. Now I go past 6 and thats just places that serve nutritionally poor, calorie dense breakfasts, you can at least double that on the way home.Tier 1 Preventative programmes: Public health interventions aimed at prevention and reinforcement of healthy eating and physical activity messages
Tier 2 Weight management services: Lifestyle weight management advice. This may be given in Primary care as part of on-going personalised care. Weight management services delivered in the community led by a health care professional (e.g. dietician) trained in obesity. This may also include additional support by commercial weight management services. These commercial programmes will be well defined with scientific leadership and with clear protocols.
Tier 3 Specialist care: 1:1 management by a medically qualified specialist in obesity. This may be community or hospital based +/- outreach and delivered by a team led by a specialist obesity physician. Patient management will also include specialist dietetic, psychological and physical activity input. This will include group work and access to leisure services. There will be access to a full range of medical specialists as required for co-morbidity management
Tier 4 Specialist care: 1:1 management provided by specialist obesity medical and surgical MDTs with full access to a full range of medical specialists as required. All patients will be referred to Tier 4 by a Tier 3 service. The difference between the medical specialty at tiers 3 and 4 will be a qualitative level of experience in complex patient management. All surgical procedures will take place in tier 4.
Those dishes and big portions have been normal for a long time. You could probably start just by reducing the portion sizes of these meals.
As above, make it easier to exclude yourself from accessing that type of food. By and large the health professionals giving weight loss advice have never had to try it for themselves and just don’t understand the difficulty.The first part already exists, its tiers 1-3 of the NHS weight management service. Consultant I spoke to put the failure rate of this approach at over 99% in people who were concerned enough about their health enough to have navigated the system to the point they can access those services.
How would you implement the second part? Its everywhere. When I started work back in the 90s I wouldn't go past a single 'fast food' place on the way to the office, let alone a drive through. Now I go past 6 and thats just places that serve nutritionally poor, calorie dense breakfasts, you can at least double that on the way home.
We've been suggesting the same things for decades as the problem has got worse and worse, what makes you think that is going to change?
this forum never ceases to amaze. not sure why they even bother to study the effects of new treatments when they could just log on here and get all the answers.
Lazy frenchI don't know what the explanations are for obesity levels in different countries? The South Pacific ones, is it genetic?
Why is the obesity rate in France nearly a third of that in the UK?
It’s just beyond belief.
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It isn’t a good look though, is it? On top of free Taylor Swift tickets, VIP police and escorts.Can’t believe pensioners don’t get an Elton John gig each
Can’t believe pensioners don’t get an Elton John gig each
in the absence of the WFP it'll be candles in the wind
It isn’t a good look though, is it? On top of free Taylor Swift tickets, VIP police and escorts.
When I get my Elton John tickets I’ll let you have them.
All the best to you with thatAs a resident fatty, carbs rather than sugars and fats are my Achilles heel. Probably no bearing on your arguments here,but as someone who might benefit I thought I'd share my perspective. Personally I refused weight loss drugs that increase metabolism. Trying to do it myself, if I hit a brick wall I might need to reconsider, but felt if I relied on them to kick-start, that I'd be reliant on them forever.
Pensioners will definitely be making a sacrifice and with no imminent apology for removing the WFP, sorry seems to be the hardest word.
To clarify, do you mean professional fatsos or fatso advocates?The pro fatties are not sending their best…
The pro fatties are not sending their best…
To clarify, do you mean professional fatsos or fatso advocates?
I always pop along to see an accountant when I need some medical adviseThe pro fatties are not sending their best…
Still 2 stone overweight so certainly still a fatso.Fatso advocates. Murphy doesn’t seem too fat, you’re a former fatty by all accounts.
I always pop along to see an accountant when I need some medical advise
Still 2 stone overweight so certainly still a fatso.
He could say take this pill and you'll wake up tomorrow an elite athlete, still not taking medical advise from an accountant!I read it as if he is on your side of the argument but again fails to understand what the drug actually does
He could say take this pill and you'll wake up tomorrow an elite athlete, still not taking medical advise from an accountant!
The investments announced were already in place, the event hasn’t brought anything in. The budget looks like it will see more money move out, in addition to which Vauxhall are considering whether to retain a manufacturing base in the UK. Titans of industry shouldn’t need to be offered anything - the UK should just have business conditions that make it THE place to invest in.What’s not a good look? What are you even complaining about? That for an event designed to bring billions in and showcase Britain we shouldn’t have used the best Britain has to offer? That we should be offering titans of industry a Tesco meal deal and a trip to Wacky Warehouse?
And again you want Labour to cancel the Taylor Swift tour? What are you even on about?
Come on. SDS strikes again.
Guess when you've been big most of your life it's hard to know anything else!Come on dude. You lost loads of weight by all accounts and its basically the last stubborn bit in the grand scheme of things. Don't be so self-deprecating!
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