They say it makes it fairer. So a track worker whose earned low wages but had a substantial fully taxed and contributed pension fund - which he is already taxed on withdrawals - can no longer on death give his family the funds - it’s stupid
Public sector pensions don’t leave a pot of money after death which can be bequeathed to someone - there is nothing to tax.Why didnt they raid funds to public sector workers as well or did they just do it for a laugh
Won't someone please think of the boomers with 60 buy to let properties, it's about time they had some luck go their way
Won't someone please think of the boomers with 60 buy to let properties, it's about time they had some luck go their way
WtafWon't someone please think of the boomers with 60 buy to let properties, it's about time they had some luck go their way
Really?The worker party.
Another reason for people to not want to better themselves
Really?
You think the playing field is level?
there has never been more of a gap beteeen the have and the have nots and it’s not all hard work in fact probably most work hard and don’t get the breaks
Levelling up isn’t just necessary for fairness it’s how civilisations are broken having such large inequality
Yeah won’t someone think of the track workers (please ignore the large scale tax avoidance behind the curtain)
Really?
You think the playing field is level?
there has never been more of a gap beteeen the have and the have nots and it’s not all hard work in fact probably most work hard and don’t get the breaks
Levelling up isn’t just necessary for fairness it’s how civilisations are broken having such large inequality
Yep just remembered the phrase I’ve always liked but it’s still impossible for the reason you makeOf course it's not, if I was born to a Duke or something rather than to a lorry driver and secretary then my life would be much different.
There is never going to be a level playing field but people should still want to do the best for themselves. My point is that sometimes it gets to the point where you think "whats the actual point in my breaking my back to work so hard?"
It won't be the Duke's kids who get fucked over when they die, it will be the kids of people in the middle who have worked their arses off and done the best they can in life with what they were given.
Yep just remembered the phrase I’ve always liked but it’s still impossible for the reason you make
Equality of opportunity is the desire isn’t it and steps put in place to aim for that
Oh ye of little creative thoughtThe only way you will get equality of opportunity is if there is no opportunity at all.
Oh ye of little creative thought
It’s an aim it’s how we define structural changes we make
Course it’s not nonsenseIt is total nonsense.
If you want such a society go and live in Cuba
Course it’s not nonsense
We have literal legislation on equality you banana
It is total nonsense.
If you want such a society go and live in Cuba
It’s petty class warfare.No one seems to know why they’ve done it.
The whole package of tax rises will tax workers indirectly in any case. The whole ‘no tax on working people’ was a lie and Labour was too cowardly to define the first place."There has never been as much as a gap between the haves and the have nots" - that I doubt
Anyway Reeves has this morning admitting taxing business with higher NI costs will mean reduced pay rises for the workers - they just have to take the pain.
there is not going to be any austerity, if you think there is I have a bridge i'd love to sell you
The worker party.
Another reason for people to not want to better themselves
You are talking about equality of opportunity.
So therefore one would assume that starts with education. So everyone is educated to an equal standard.
The only way you do this is to equalise the system. How is that done? Even the comprehensive system is in essence rigged to the richer in society is it not?
The worker party.
Another reason for people to not want to better themselves
A mealy mouthed responded Pete. Taxing the existing structures is not redefining them. The aim of the tax code ought to be maximising tax revenues and what we seen in the lead up to the budget was the Government begging wealth creators to stay put in the country.Oh ye of little creative thought
It’s an aim it’s how we define structural changes we make
The whole package of tax rises will tax workers indirectly in any case. The whole ‘no tax on working people’ was a lie and Labour was too cowardly to define the first place.
I mean this is just nonsense, people don't avoid bettering themselves because they think they're going to be taxed on it. Come off it ffs.
A mealy mouthed responded Pete. Taxing the existing structures is not redefining them. The aim of the tax code ought to be maximising tax revenues and what we seen in the lead up to the budget was the Government begging wealth creators to stay out in the country.
It’s naive to put your faith in Government to redistribute wealth via public services. Especially without addressing public sector reform.
We get the government we deserve as a country and it will all backfire.
There is one exception TBF. Lots of people just under £100k defer pay rises or pay into pensions or whatever if they have two young kids cos the loss of benefits and personal allowance makes the marginal rate ridiculous until £150k or so.
Outside of that it’s a nonsense.
It was fucking shorthand for NI VAT and IC very obviously.
That person has bettered themselves by that point, they're just managing their income.
Do you think it was an honest way to present their taxation policies to the electorate? I, no.
Which they proceeded to increase NI. In theory, it is a tax raise on employers. In practice, and Rachel Reeves herself has admitted, will reduce private sector pay rises. Therefore, it’s essentially an indirect tax on workers.
It’s funny, Sunak’s Labour costing £2,000 per household claim was derided in the election campaign, it may actually be a slight underestimate.
The bot account seems to be malfunctioning.Anyone who votes for Trump is garbage
If you think any tax that isn’t VAT, IC or NI does not impact ‘working people’, good for you.“Indirectly” “essentially”
yeah you’re scrabbling.
What would you have cut given the £20bn of spending the Tories hid? And as you say seemed to know what they’d done because they priced it up pretty close (£1600 per household actually)
Are you *still* bitching about paying VAT on a luxury good?
Hope they double it next year.
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