Marty
Well-Known Member
Sounds good in theory, but it's an easy target for the lunatics.
The alternative I saw suggested, and this is going back a good while, is to have almost a parliamentary hotel. 650 rooms so each has their own room with necessary facilities. Cover expenses between main residence and parliament but that’s about it.
But they are also constituency MP's who are supposed to hold surgeries. If they're allowed to get a home for their constituency work, may as well just tell them this is it, so like it or lump it.Because really they should be in London most of the time. Pay them all £200k and ban all expenses and donations.
That was something I considered.The alternative I saw suggested, and this is going back a good while, is to have almost a parliamentary hotel. 650 rooms so each has their own room with necessary facilities. Cover expenses between main residence and parliament but that’s about it.
Isn't that pretty much what I've suggested?They’ve all got a home at home and all need one in London. The question I guess is London MPs and arguably surrounding areas. I’ve always liked the idea of a house/flat for each MP that needs one given for free for five years, just add bills.
Why is there chronic unemployment in the sea port of Grimsby, one must wonderWhat are they then. You don't think the benefits system needs tightening up. What does it say in your comic The Socialist Worker?
Rampant unemployment in a post-industrial town that was left to die away by successive governments (and is still being ignored now)What are they then. You don't think the benefits system needs tightening up. What does it say in your comic The Socialist Worker?
But they are also constituency MP's who are supposed to hold surgeries. If they're allowed to get a home for their constituency work, may as well just tell them this is it, so like it or lump it.
Isn't that pretty much what I've suggested?
What are they then. You don't think the benefits system needs tightening up. What does it say in your comic The Socialist Worker?
It’s a fun concept but in practice no one would want to stay there, and it would just encourage more of them to make cushy deals for second homes on the sideThe alternative I saw suggested, and this is going back a good while, is to have almost a parliamentary hotel. 650 rooms so each has their own room with necessary facilities. Cover expenses between main residence and parliament but that’s about it.
It’s a fun concept but in practice no one would want to stay there, and it would just encourage more of them to make cushy deals for second homes on the side
No one wants to admit it because everyone hates them, but MPs have an important job and should be compensated to the extent that they don’t have to worry about money or side hustles for the time they’re serving. Otherwise the job will continue to only attract poshos and/or grifters.
200K a year (no expenses) is a very reasonable salary for example in that job as @shmmeee suggested. Anyone wanting more is only gonna be in it for the grift anyway.It’s a fun concept but in practice no one would want to stay there, and it would just encourage more of them to make cushy deals for second homes on the side
No one wants to admit it because everyone hates them, but MPs have an important job and should be compensated to the extent that they don’t have to worry about money or side hustles for the time they’re serving. Otherwise the job will continue to only attract poshos and/or grifters.
They could join the asylum seekers.Theyre supposed to live in their constituency! If they don’t get a hotel I don’t care.
So you think they aren’t currently compensated enough?It’s a fun concept but in practice no one would want to stay there, and it would just encourage more of them to make cushy deals for second homes on the side
No one wants to admit it because everyone hates them, but MPs have an important job and should be compensated to the extent that they don’t have to worry about money or side hustles for the time they’re serving. Otherwise the job will continue to only attract poshos and/or grifters.
I don’t think they’re compensated to the extent that the country’s most talented minds would consider moving profession to become an MP. So I guess, no?So you think they aren’t currently compensated enough?
Don’t a lot of jobs consume your life - often for longer than 5 years. They are pretty well payed and in the enviable position of being able to vote for their own pay rises. Kendall is on around £160k.That’s it. The more you squeeze them the more they’ll look for ways to line their pockets. The salary isn’t great if you’re someone in any half decent career in London, and the job consumes your life for five years and comes with a host of shit side effects for you and your family.
Don’t a lot of jobs consume your life - often for longer than 5 years. They are pretty well payed and in the enviable position of being able to vote for their own pay rises. Kendall is on around £160k.
Bit of a non story every other farm can do precisely the same thingIsn’t insider trading a Tory evil?
“THE Chancellor is facing calls to reveal whether she inadvertently tipped off a Labour MP with a 2,200-acre family estate about her inheritance tax raid on farms.
The parents of Mid and South Pembrokeshire MP Henry Tufnell transferred ownership of Upper Coln Farm and Stud to his brother Albemarle just 20 days before the Budget.
This means the new ‘family farm tax’ won’t have to be paid on the land - thought to be worth more than £20million - when they pass away, provided they live until October 2031. It has raised questions over whether Mr Tufnell, known as the party’s ‘poshest’ MP, was informed about these changes in advance to avoid the levy.”
What on earth happened to fishing?Rampant unemployment in a post-industrial town that was left to die away by successive governments (and is still being ignored now)
Zero investment in the town/region once the livelihood that provided for the whole community disappeared.
That’s your start point.
Its not what they did, it’s when they did it. It’s doing it in advance of the budget that is the issue. It’s almost as if they gained an advantage by knowing for definite what was going to happen in advance. Even a nice guy like you can’t think that’s OK.Bit of a non story every other farm can do precisely the same thing
Don’t set me off again.AT least the Politicians get their heating paid for.
Don’t a lot of jobs consume your life - often for longer than 5 years. They are pretty well payed and in the enviable position of being able to vote for their own pay rises. Kendall is on around £160k.
As I think you have said elsewhere, why not stay in a hotel or get a train back to London, exist in the real world not the metropolitan / career politician bubble.
So they get the additional stamp duty and council tax for second homes covered as well? They should have to repay anything they get from the sale of their second property. There should be rules around what sort of second property they can have - item small and low cost.
She may have done nothing legally wrong, but it isn’t a good look is it?I mean the point is she’s done nothing wrong. This rule has been in place forever. You’re just being reminded of it to make you angry. I don’t think anyone would start from here, but I do think you’d have to raise the salary if you’re asking people to live in London 39 weeks of the year or whatever with no expenses.
Its not what they did, it’s when they did it. It’s doing it in advance of the budget that is the issue. It’s almost as if they gained an advantage by knowing for definite what was going to happen in advance. Even a nice guy like you can’t think that’s OK.
Im sure loads of younger senior farmers (I.e. those likely to live for another 13 years plus) would have done similar if they had known that Reeves was going to do what she did - I think it had been promised that this wouldn‘t happen.
But then, what is a Labour promise worth?
BTW just got my £10 Christmas bonus. I promise not to spend it all a at once. Although I do need a jar of coffee and a loaf of bread.
She may have done nothing legally wrong, but it isn’t a good look is it?
That they have been able to take steps to avoid a tax in the full knowledge in advance of changes in the tax regime. Alledgedly.What advantage have they gained?
BrexitWhat on earth happened to fishing?
That they have been able to take steps to avoid a tax in the full knowledge in advance of changes in the tax regime. Alledgedly.
If this was a Tory benefiting from knowledge gained as a result of their political position, eg by insider trading or the like, you would be foaming at the mouth In indignation.
Well strictly they gained 2 weeks that is allIts not what they did, it’s when they did it. It’s doing it in advance of the budget that is the issue. It’s almost as if they gained an advantage by knowing for definite what was going to happen in advance. Even a nice guy like you can’t think that’s OK.
Im sure loads of younger senior farmers (I.e. those likely to live for another 13 years plus) would have done similar if they had known that Reeves was going to do what she did - I think it had been promised that this wouldn‘t happen.
But then, what is a Labour promise worth?
BTW just got my £10 Christmas bonus. I promise not to spend it all a at once. Although I do need a jar of coffee and a loaf of bread.
Insider training is gaining a financial advantage thoughThat they have been able to take steps to avoid a tax in the full knowledge in advance of changes in the tax regime. Alledgedly.
If this was a Tory benefiting from knowledge gained as a result of their political position, eg by insider trading or the like, you would be foaming at the mouth In indignation.
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