MalcSB
Well-Known Member
As a Labour Party member, that sums up exactly how I feel.
As a Labour Party member, that sums up exactly how I feel.Who'd have thought it
Who'd have thought it
Competence.Competence needs a vision
Will be rubbished as being right wing (as any criticism of Keir and his pals is). Bloomberg leans left, apparently.Who'd have thought it
Competence.
Take out the hysteria and the fact he sounds like this meme:
We certainly are.we’re just seeing what letting the inmates run the asylum does.
Which infrastructure has he nationalised?Take out the hysteria and the fact he sounds like this meme:
and he’s a supremely competent PM certainly compared to any since May. He’s uniquely been willing to take on vested interests be it planning, IHT, etc. Nationalising infrastructure. Genuinely making decisions others have ducked for decades.
The fact is the current crop of MPs on all sides is either new or crap. There’s some good new Labour MPs and maybe other parties, but right now the alternatives are all populist cranks of varying flavours and we’ve just seen what letting the inmates run the asylum does.
We certainly are.
Which infrastructure has he nationalised?
Who knows whether the intel Alex Whickham has quoted is true or not. If it is, it ties in with my belief that Starmer won’t last full term. He is totally uninspiring.I remember talking to you 2016-2024 so I know you weren’t in a coma.
All the stuff people are getting hysterical about is fluff. This country needs to fix serious problems around housing infrastructure and immigration and it isn’t going to happen with Milkman Nige or Overly Online Kemi.
Was sort of jokingCompetence.
I guess I spotted that. Need an articulatable vision first, and then the ability to articulate it in an inspiring way. Starmer has none of that.Was sort of joking
Not sure he’d be given the chanceI guess I spotted that. Need an articulatable vision first, and then the ability to articulate it in an inspiring way. Starmer has none of that.
By whom?Not sure he’d be given the chance
The country I thinkBy whom?
9.8m voters gave him the chance 5 months ago.Not sure he’d be given the chance
The country doesn’t need to give him the chance to develop a vision (which he should have had pre election) or to articulate it. He is PM with a huge majority in Parliament ffs. He has just hired Pinewood for a day and presented what? Fuck all, and at his usual level of inspirational style.The country I think
They want quick easy solutions to long term complicated problems
Nah maybe a million at most9.8m voters gave him the chance 5 months ago.
I'd guess at least half of those already have buyers remorse.
Starmer himself looks increasingly like he realises he's not the man for the job.
Over 10% by your reckoning then.Nah maybe a million at most
It’s only a nonsense guessOver 10% by your reckoning then.
I’m sure there’s a seeing along the ,Ines of “start as you mean to go on”.It’s only a nonsense guess
Most are longer term thinking than 5 months
The clamour is crazy on social media and fancy arranging a 3mn petition to overturn an election madness
Reform will win in 2029 and we’ll look back as you and others have said and try and work out what went wrong
It’s as much the democratic loving quiet majority who will be to blame for allowing Farage and other rich friends to manipulate fear and blame whistle politics on a nation
The country doesn’t need to give him the chance to develop a vision (which he should have had pre election) or to articulate it. He is PM with a huge majority in Parliament ffs. He has just hired Pinewood for a day and presented what? Fuck all, and at his usual level of inspirational style.
Labour had 14 years to develop a plan, in detail and in full knowledge of exactly how NOT to do things. Alomgsi£e which they should have had a comprehensive communication plan.
Failed.
They have certainly got a plan to review lots of stuff - is it 70 reviews? Thereby kicking the can down the road.In what way have they not got a plan?
You may not agree with or like their plan but it’s been the same since the manifesto.
Sending Kier Starmer an extra £30 a year to own the libsI thought I would join the Labour Party for a laugh. £2.88 per month.
They have certainly got a plan to review lots of stuff - is it 70 reviews? Thereby kicking the can down the road.
Even you must admit they have hardly hit the ground running. Economic trends heading in the same direction as approval ratings - in the wrong direction.
Can you just remind me where in the manifesto they promised to stop Winter Fuel Payments for millions of Pensioners?Are they? Seems alright to me: https://assets.kpmg.com/content/dam/kpmg/uk/pdf/2024/09/uk-economic-outlook-september-2024.pdf
They’ve been in six months and have about 30 bills going through parliament including:
- Great British Rail
- Great British Energy
- water regulation
- modernising the HoL
- Football Governance Bill
- Employment Rights Bill
- Renters Rights Bill
- Tobacco and vapes bill (TBF this was sunaks but they’ve kept it on)
- Assisted dying for the terminally ill
Again you may not like some or even all of these, but to claim they’re doing nothing but reviews and have no plan is a nonsense.
Can you just remind me where in the manifesto they promised to stop Winter Fuel Payments for millions of Pensioners?
Remind me how much they've done already for the economy and private sector employees disposable income ?So now your complaint is they’re doing too much?
You were saying that they had a plan and have stuck to it. I’m pointing out something that wasn’t in the plan, and may have affected their vote had it been. Yes, I know older voters - those directly affected - don't tend to vote Labour but younger members of their families may have been concerned about the impact on granny and voted differently. The promised reduction in energy prices by £300 pa seems to have vanished into thin air, never to be mentioned again.So now your complaint is they’re doing too much?
Most train drivers are in the private sector (for now) and have done quite well.Remind me how much they've done already for the economy and private sector employees disposable income ?
Most train drivers are in the private sector (for now) and have done quite well.
You were saying that they had a plan and have stuck to it. I’m pointing out something that wasn’t in the plan, and may have affected their vote had it been. Yes, I know older voters - those directly affected - don't tend to vote Labour but younger members of their families may have been concerned about the impact on granny and voted differently. The promised reduction in energy prices by £300 pa seems to have vanished into thin air, never to be mentioned again.
They have laid down a gauntlet to themselves. If we don’t all feel better off by the next election they will have failed,
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