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I would be more impressed by swift action if that included these MPs having to resign and stand again as independents in a bye election. They were elected as labour candidates, not because their local electorate judged them to be very nice, honourable people ( proved wrong in 6 months).

If Gwynne isn’t prosecuted for committing a hate crime in relation to his death wish for an elderly constituent who was merely asking him to do his job as the local MP, then that surely demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt the Sir Kier is guilty of a two tier approach to justice and decency.

MalcSB said:

It may be a tiny figure, but it has sensitised people against the larger number.

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That’s an interesting perspective
So is the larger number ok if they are different people and ok people to us brits
It’s sort of what reform are saying

I wonder who has leaked the chats and why. By no means defending any of these wankers but I doubt very much they are any different from most MPs on all sides.

Sky Blue Pete said:

Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately

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Absolute

fernandopartridge said:

I wonder who has leaked the chats and why. By no means defending any of these wankers but I doubt very much they are any different from most MPs on all sides.

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Without doubt and news the police are investigating is beyond laughable. I mean its all a bit Jim Davidson but nothing said is really anything worse than a drunken conversation in a pub.

For once I agree with Angela

I'm sure absolutely none of these farmers ever complained about JSO protestors from blocking ambulances etc

MalcSB said:

Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments

Burnley MP Oliver Ryan says his comments in the group were "completely unacceptable".

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I would be more impressed by swift action if that included these MPs having to resign and stand again as independents in a bye election. They were elected as labour candidates, not because their local electorate judged them to be very nice, honourable people ( proved wrong in 6 months).

If Gwynne isn’t prosecuted for committing a hate crime in relation to his death wish for an elderly constituent who was merely asking him to do his job as the local MP, then that surely demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt the Sir Kier is guilty of a two tier approach to justice and decency.

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I think you’re overstating Starmers powers. IIRC the only people who can sack/force a resignation of an MP is said MP’s constituency with a recall petition.

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fernandopartridge said:

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I’m not sure which set of ghouls is worse.

fernandopartridge said:

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If the government shouldn’t do stuff - or even publicise the fact they’re doing stuff - because right-wing headbangers on Zombie Twitter won’t give them any credit for it, then why not just give up now and hand the keys to Farage?

SBT said:

If the government shouldn’t do stuff - or even publicise the fact they’re doing stuff - because right-wing headbangers on Zombie Twitter won’t give them any credit for it, then why not just give up now and hand the keys to Farage?

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Who were these videos aimed at?

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After years of publicising arrivals by the right it’s only common sense that Labour publicise departure. The numbers are quite telling also.

Labour have deported more irregular migrants since coming to power than the Tories did in the prior 12 months and by some margin. At this rate outgoings are going to start outweighing incomings. What will be interesting is seeing how this affects the numbers coming in. The chances of being deported have increased greatly now we don’t have a government who deliberately letting the numbers climb in some moronic attempt to create a problem so they can claim that they’re the only ones that can fix it because if we’re being honest that’s exactly what they did. If there’s a high probability that you’ll be deported if you don’t have a genuine asylum claim that in itself has to be a deterrent. Surely?

Which to address the question of why entertain the right wing ghouls. There is another point to advertising it. Inform the chancers who don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum that crossing the channel is pointless because we’re in the deportation business if you don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum.

skybluetony176 said:

I think you’re overstating Starmers powers. IIRC the only people who can sack/force a resignation of an MP is said MP’s constituency with a recall petition.

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So you are saying Starmer has no influence?

Would explain a lot, obviously. He needs to encourage / support a prosecution.

Whilst there are a lot of ifs and buts along the way, a prison sentence of more than a year disbars an individual from being an MP. Resulting in a by-election.

MalcSB said:

So you are saying Starmer has no influence?

Would explain a lot, obviously. He needs to encourage / support a prosecution.

Whilst there are a lot of ifs and buts along the way, a prison sentence of more than a year disbars an individual from being an MP. Resulting in a by-election.

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I’m saying Starmer has used the influence he has to its fullest. It’s down to his constituents if they want a new MP which is how it should be. From what I’ve read there’s no suggestion of a criminal conviction simply because no crime was committed. Seems to me you’re using it as an excuse to bash Starmer with no understanding of due process or awareness that due process has been followed to the latter.